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Perhaps another way to think about the quarantine: Just as when a human gets 'run down' , picking up an illness when one 'goes out into public' is more likely, I would suspect it is the same for a malnourished horse. There are pathogens on the ground ---here, there, and everywhere, in the air, in trailers, and so on. I would encourage folks to err on the side of caution and follow the recommendations of the quarantine facility. We all want a happy ending to this story
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Peggy

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Ok i have some good news all of the clients that i have here love the new style of hoof nippers that a friend of mine engineered and Innovative Concepts, LLC has agreed with me to donate 2 pair to the auction coming up for the CMHA. They are called barracudas and can be used one handed.

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I emailed my foster application in to Shannon tonight. :aktion033:

I am available to help out if need be. :aktion033:

Sure looks like there is alot of fantastic help available. :aktion033:

And also alot of donations have been made. :aktion033:

Way to go everyone. :aktion033:
 
Hey Susan I got it!

What took you so long????? :aktion033: :aktion033: :aktion033:

thanks a mil.........

Edited to add: Susan, please pm me or email me I have a ? for you
 
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having never had to quarantine a horse before I hope this is not a totally stupid question but how far away from the other horses would they need to be for the quarantine to be effective. I have a couple of horses I am not to worried about but I also have my 6 yr old mini that (cross your fingers) may be pregnant with her first. After thinking it over I do have a pen (built it for Babe to have her Baby in) that is about 5 feet away from my other horses. I could move Babe to my quarter horse stall, move the quarter to my mom's (she would not mind) and put a rescue horse in Babes stall. That would give us all winter to find a home for the mini after it is healthy. Anyone with experience in this think this would work or would it put Babe and her foal in danger?

OH I almost forgot. If we get to go in this weekend my rig would be available. I have some people that would donate gas for my gas guzzler so I could transport the entire weekend. Trailer is large horse 3 horse trailer. The center sections can be removed to work more like a stock trailer. Sadly though I am only available this weekend. Can't get off work.

Wanting to help if I can.
 
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Charlie Horse page 26 has information on quarantine that was provided by some people who run a quarantine facility. I know it's getting lost in all the posts on this thread so I've copied it to the forum. They recommend a minimum of 35 feet from other horses.

Edited to add a note to Marty.

Marty - I remember reading (several pages back) that you're preparing information on feeding starving horses to be handed out in Kansas. May I suggest that you post it on the forum also??? To me, this is information that anyone/everyone might be interested in having.
 
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Marty, if you do post the brochure about feeding a starving horse, can I copy/paste it to my website? I am setting up an About Minis page and it has all kinds of info on it that I couldn't find when I was starting out and things that I feel are very important for people to be aware of. I would LOVE to use your brochure if it's alright with you.
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: Since I'm not breeding any longer, I'm setting up my site as a learning area. A place for people to go where many things are all in one place...
 
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It's nothing earth shaking; just a little trouble shooter and just about everyone here wouldn't need it. It's only really for anyone that doesn't have a clue. It's research and information gathered from a variety of University test studies here and there etc. I've already done it 6 times and have to keep re-wording it in the case of newbies. But that's a good thing cause I don't do big words either...
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We are still waiting on word from the Sheriff. He was not in his office when Jess called but the secretary said he was out working on it.

So we wait!!!

Ginny
 
Thanks for letting us know Ginny. I was afraid when you said he would get in touch with you either Monday or Tuesday that it might be more like Wednesday or Thursday. Hopefully, whenever it is, it will be good news for those little ones. Did anyone ever find out how many horses are there?
 
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Well everyone, for what it's worth here is the latest update.

The Sheriff and the State Vet have decided for the time being to let Mr Trembly keep his minis. They have talked with him and told him he has 30 days to get the minis in better shape or the Sheriff will seize them. In the mean time the State Vet is going to worm, vaccinate and health check all the minis. There is plenty of food now on the property, apparently there was some before but not of good quality nor was it given to the minis. Mr Trembly says he loves his minis but has no help to maintain them. For the next month they will be monitored via the Sheriffs office to make sure they are being fed and watered. If in that time Mr Trembly fails to maintain his herd, then the Sheriff says he will step in.

Apparently money is not a problem. The Sheriff says Mr Trembly has money. Mr Trembly says he is in the process of buying an additional 20 acres adjoining his property to bring it up to 100 acres. Hr says he loves his minis and does not want to part with them. Apparently one or two of his friends learned of this thread and called him to warn him that he was in danger of losing his herd if things didn't shape up. Mr Trembly does not live at the farm but in town and has no one to drive him there everyday. I don't know what he is planning to do, but I do know the Sheriff will keep up on it. He says he will contact Jess after the 30 days if Mr Trembly does not do what he says he'll do.

I cannot pretend that I am happy about this and this is my own opinion not that of the Board Members. We will probably get those poor minis down the road and in the middle of winter when no one wants to go to that farm to keep them fed. I believe Mr Trembly truly loves his minis and though financially able to care for them, cannot do it physically. I think it is a shame that we have to wait till that happens. I pray to God that it doesn't work out that way and Mr Trembly does find the help he needs.

A lot of you have donated to this cause and as I said before, you may have your funds returned. However I feel in my gut that we will be going through this again in the not too distant future. Those of you that have sent halters, leads, wormers etc to me or someone else in CHMR, those too can be returned .

I am going to look at the pictures again and cry.

Thank you all for being such a wonderful group and caring so much.

Ginny President, CMHR

P S Jess is going to contact Mr Trembly and offer the services of CMHR to help him reduce his numbers. Seeing as we have Foster and Adoptive homes set up we are praying that he just might consider this.

G
 
Thanks for the update Ginny....I've been trying to keep up with this.

I feel so incredibly sad for those horses and also for Mr. Trembly...from what I've read I DO believe he loves his horses very much though I think that if he loved them enough he'd let CMHR help him reduce his numbers. I hope everything works out so the horses are safe and loved and in good health. I can't imagine those poor little guys trying to make it through the winter like that. GOD BLESS EVERY ANIMAL WHO CAN NOT FEND FOR ITSELF... I'm going to go give treats to all my babies.
 
Sorry I feel NO sympathy for him whatsoever.

He is warm and dry and fed.

His horses are not.

If he really had any feeling for them he would never have allowed them to get this way.

Over here, not tending to an animal at least once in every 24 hours is abandonment and not acceptable under law.

Even if the animals appeared well they would be taken away.

I think the Sheriff should get tough- this man has the money??

So why are we feeling sorry for him??

He just won't spend the stuff in order to give the horse the care they need.

God HELP them when they foal- how long would it be before he found a mare with a foal stuck??

Or a dead foal??

This is NOT horse care, this is LACK of horse care and the fact that he knows what he is doing makes it ten times worse.

OK Flame away, I do not even need asbestos knickers anymore!!! :bgrin
 
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:no: And once again, the wheels of justice turn...

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I had been hoping that I was wrong but had it figured out that this is exactly as it would turn out. :eek: :eek: Just makes me want to bawl!
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So sad that the ones without voices have to suffer. LOVE ...the pictures just don't show it. :no: :no: Sorry but I have no sympathy for a person who allows what he owns to not be taken care of. There is no excuse for this type of neglect...he had the means but not the will do right by innocent little animals.
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Love would have given the little ones a place where they were taken care of ...this only speaks of selfishness!! Thanks to CMHR for trying, Mary
 
Personally, I feel the old man, no matter what his situation, should be charged with animal abuse and put in jail. I understand he is most likely someones grandfather. But, a criminal is a criminal no matter how old they are. We had an 85 yr old guy kill his girlfriend and he went to jail. I understand that animal abuse is not murdering a human. But, a crime is a crime is a crime. If no one will drive him out to the farm then since he has money either take a taxi, hire someone, sell the horses or go to jail.
 
Eight days ago, we were shown pictures of emaciated horses in dire need of assistance. One had maggots crawling up his sheath and that was enough to make me crazy. We were asked to send letters and make phone calls to the proper authorities to help get these little horses some help and many rallied immediately without hesitation. The original person that bothered to step up and report this situation is a Hero in every sense of the word. Because he had the guts to take pictures and report this atrocity, and because we followed through, these horses were given a chance to survive.

This herd became the focus of many people who did not hesitate to open up their hearts, barns, and bank accounts for the asking. You fell in love with a herd of horses that you never even met, but were determined to help each and every one. This shows that there is still much humanity left in what can be a very cruel world at times.

I am not happy one bit with this outcome. As the horses have been given another chance, the owner has been given another chance as well. He made a mistake and according to law he has been granted time to atone for it. I do feel this is going to be just a temporary band-aid on a festering situation, and sooner or later we will be right back to square one and have to pick up where we left off. Since the owner had no vehicle or help in bringing feed, hay or practicing basic care such as farrier and vet supplies to his herd during these past months, I wonder how he will do it now. As soon as there is ice and snow on the ground, I think the horses will be in trouble once more. I feel this is a situation of hoarding and I do hope the owner will voluntarily surrender some of these horses soon or sell them. I wish only the best things for this gentleman and that he too receives all the care and emotional support that he needs to get him through this crisis and make the right decisions for his herd. I'll be waiting to see what happens in 30 days.
 
Was this decision based on the law there in the state or by the 'good ol' boy' rules that sometimes rule small communities and who knows who?

I am so sad- if he can't even get a ride out there on a daily basis, we know, and it is pretty apparent, that they have not been cared for, and it would not surprize me if DAYS went by with no attention to them. Not even mentioning foaling unattended, I wonder how many have colicked and had no one there to call a vet, or been cut on junk and needed even a little doctoring and got nothing?

Did anyone find out why the one had blood all over it's back legs and MAGGOTS?

If he has the money, then if he cared, why doesnt he hire a local kid that could use some gas money or something to go by every evening and feed, water and check on everyone? It would have to be someone DEPENDABLE.

I hope the folks that tipped him off and were worried that he might 'lose his herd' are happy. Maybe they could go out daily and feed and water, and doctor the ones that need it and take care of this mess? Have they taken a GOOD LOOK at the conditions there and of the horses? Maybe they could sit out in the cold and hold the dying horses head in their lap while it takes it's last breath and pretend that they really care. They were concerned he might lose his herd, but NOT concerned enough to help him, or to help them all this time.

This makes me sick, and that it had to come to this to FORCE him to find a way to take care of his horses is just wrong. I have a feeling I know what the ultimate outcome will be. This is just prolonging the inevitable - sort of putting a bandaid on an arterial wound.

Just edited to add that if Mr Trembly has the money, perhaps a nice donation to CMHR would be appropriate. Marty, great minds think alike- we must have posted at the same time.
 
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Was this decision based on the law there in the state or by the 'good ol' boy' rules that sometimes rule small communities and who knows who?

The law.

Did anyone find out why the one had blood all over it's back legs and MAGGOTS?

The State Vet is doing all the vet stuff.

If he has the money, then if he cared, why doesnt he hire a local kid that could use some gas money or something to go by every evening and feed, water and check on everyone?

That's the part I found so shocking. He's got money!

I hope the folks that tipped him off and were worried that he might 'lose his herd' are happy.

Right on again!

I'm still worried sick especially about the pregnant mares having to foal all alone. I"m just so sad about this.

I can't help but thinking that it's going to be so hard trying to put a rescue like this together again in the dead of winter. I just feel that we'll be baaaaackkkkkk
 
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