75 - 125 Kansas Minis "OMG Please help by WRITING!!"

[Reijel's Mom]

Buying would certainly help some of the current horses get out of the situation. But it wouldn't stop him from breeding and producing more, or possibly buying more in the future if he is so inclined. Might even keep him in the "business" that much longer.

Sad, sad, sad, about this whole mess. But not surprised.

 

[MBhorses]

hello,

could someone maybe start a new thread for this one, so we can go read the new post easier?I am so glad to see folks helping these minis out.You will be bless.

I feel so sorry for these minis, they didn't ask for this type of life style.

 

[Mona]

hello,

could someone maybe start a new thread for this one, so we can go read the new post easier?I am so glad to see folks helping these minis out.You will be bless.

All you need to do to read the new posts, is to click on the little orange square beside the topic title and it will take you directly to the last place that you marked it as "read" and go from there. I think it is best that it stays all in one topic so it is not cluttering up the rest of the board with new posts scattered here and there all in regards to the same thing. The inportant things get lost too easily that way.

 

[MBhorses]

started a new thread for these kansas minis. i hope that was okay. i was thinking it would be easier for folks to read without having to go through all of the posts.

sorry i didn't know.

 

[Mona]

started a new thread for these kansas minis. i hope that was okay. i was thinking it would be easier for folks to read without having to go through all of the posts.

sorry i didn't know.

You don;t have to go through all the posts. Go to the last page that you left off on by clicking the orange square.

 

[Marty]

Look above on the left side of the page and there is a page counter with an arrow.

Now it says you are on page 41.

Click on the arrow and put in what page you would like to go to.

Then hit "go" and walla, you will be there soon!

 

[wendi leigh]

Wow Mona... that is so cool. In all this time, I never realized that's the way the orange square worked. I usually just clicked on the last page and read the posts backwards until I got to where I left off.

Learn something new every day!! Thanks.

 

[Marty]

I cannot wait until this man has to take out his check book and start writting checks to feed people and hay people and vets and farriers like all of us.

I think that is going to be the ace in the hole when he has to start paying for his animals and stepping up and being accountable.

The free ride is over so hopefully it won't last too long and he'll give it up.

 

[HGFarm]

Wait a minute.... those laws said that any "officer or agent of any incorporated humane society, animal shelter or other appropriate facility may take into custody any animal, upon either private or public property, which clearly shows evidence of cruelty to animals, as defined in K.S.A. 21-4310 and amendments thereto."

All of these animals fall under the animal cruelty description, as noone has been out there on a daily basis to feed and water by his own admittance!

Is CMHR incorporated? I'll bet if it's a 501c3 it is! Is it not considered either an animal 'shelter' or 'appropriate facility'? Does this not allow CMHR to intervene? I do NOT see anything here about allowing a 30 day time frame to get the horses back in shape and taken care of.

"Upon the filing of a sworn complaint by any public health officer, law enforcement officer, licensed veterinarian or officer or agent of any incorporated humane society, animal shelter or other appropriate facility alleging the commission of cruelty to animals, as defined in K.S.A. 21-4310 and amendments thereto, the county or district attorney shall determine the validity of the complaint and shall forthwith file charges for the crime if the complaint appears to be valid."

Can an officer with CMHR file a complaint with the county or district attorney? If CMHR is incorporated, I dont see why not?!! I would suggest again contacting the news stations with follow ups that these animals are left in his care still? And yes, I agree with the law that states HE is responsible for the bills.

Just edited to note I dont see any orange square on this one- I think it blew up!

 

[Marty]

CHMR cannot seize horses.

But that is not saying someone else might be able to

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[Buckskin gal]

The problem is that nobody is going to get past the Sherrif right now. He is the power right now. This Sherrif has known there was a problem....his job is to parole the whole county and see that laws are followed but obviously he didn't do anything about it and doesn't think these little guys should be taken away from the owner even though he has been irresponsible. I too think the news agencies should check into this matter and expose it for what it is....animal abuse! More and more pictures need to be taken and published so the public is aware what can happen when no one cares enough to take care of innocent creatures. It is because abusers get away with abuse that it keeps happening. I know, we are all still worried sick and feel so helpless in a situation like this. Will money talk and the wonderful people who are stepping up and offering to buy them get anywhere.....they can only try. Mary

Wait a minute.... those laws said that any "officer or agent of any incorporated humane society, animal shelter or other appropriate facility may take into custody any animal, upon either private or public property, which clearly shows evidence of cruelty to animals, as defined in K.S.A. 21-4310 and amendments thereto."

All of these animals fall under the animal cruelty description, as noone has been out there on a daily basis to feed and water by his own admittance!

Is CMHR incorporated? I'll bet if it's a 501c3 it is! Is it not considered either an animal 'shelter' or 'appropriate facility'? Does this not allow CMHR to intervene? I do NOT see anything here about allowing a 30 day time frame to get the horses back in shape and taken care of.

"Upon the filing of a sworn complaint by any public health officer, law enforcement officer, licensed veterinarian or officer or agent of any incorporated humane society, animal shelter or other appropriate facility alleging the commission of cruelty to animals, as defined in K.S.A. 21-4310 and amendments thereto, the county or district attorney shall determine the validity of the complaint and shall forthwith file charges for the crime if the complaint appears to be valid."

Can an officer with CMHR file a complaint with the county or district attorney? If CMHR is incorporated, I dont see why not?!! I would suggest again contacting the news stations with follow ups that these animals are left in his care still? And yes, I agree with the law that states HE is responsible for the bills.

 

[Katiean]

Ok, I could not get my computer to cut and paste but I will commit to at least 1 maybe 2 if I can find help to get it/them out here to Nevada. I can come up with $200 extra in a month. I just get less eating out. I am on a fixed income and my livestock; Rabbits Horses, Goat, dogs and cats all eat before I do. Their feed is bought first. We even had an Emu with a birth defect that we kept for her 8 short years even making her a blanket (that one wasn't easy) to keep her warm in the snow months. I just have to cut back a couple of large rabbits to make room in the budget for the horses. NBD

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[FMC Minis]

Tally:

3 Mona Stone

5 Parmela Bonney

2 Ginny St Pierre I'll take a couple

1 Joyce Kenes

1 Cyndi Doss

2 Kathy (1 maybe 2)

14 Total :bgrin

Everyone is very caring and generous to want to help the horses and the owner as well.

 

[SunQuest]

All I have to say about my previous post is that I posted the laws for a reason....

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If one is going to try to help, they must know what the laws are where the problem is....

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[FMC Minis]

All I have to say about my previous post is that I posted the laws for a reason....

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If one is going to try to help, they must know what the laws are where the problem is....

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That is the state law for Kansas, right?

Then it should apply to anything in that state.

Just trying to help.

 

[HGFarm]

That is what I am trying to say....

There is NOTHING there that says he has to be given 30 days to fix this. That is a 'judgement call' by the local sheriff. (Like I suggested before, the 'good ol' boy' syndrome) Filing a report with the state attorney is higher than that and they will look at it to see if charges need to be pressed for the neglect and cruetly.

Yes, there ARE ways to go around the local sheriff to higher powers, legally. This is not restricted to the state vet or sheriff making this call. Continuing to make noise with the media may eventually spark some interest and get some action that way as well.

This whole thing is just not right and is just postponing the inevitable. We all know how this will end up. Sounds like these horses have lived under this type of situation (was going to use the word 'care', but there really is none) for a long time.

I would offer to buy one, but I just could not afford the shipping at this time.

And P.S. - Duh, now I know why the orange square does or doesnt show up- figured it out. It's pretty darned handy! :bgrin

 

[Buckskin gal]

Go for it Laurie! If you can go around the sherrif and get something going I am sure you will have support! :aktion033: :aktion033: And for shipping you might ask some of the transporters if they would donate some space for a good cause. good luck, Mary

That is what I am trying to say....

There is NOTHING there that says he has to be given 30 days to fix this. That is a 'judgement call' by the local sheriff. (Like I suggested before, the 'good ol' boy' syndrome) Filing a report with the state attorney is higher than that and they will look at it to see if charges need to be pressed for the neglect and cruetly.

Yes, there ARE ways to go around the local sheriff to higher powers, legally. This is not restricted to the state vet or sheriff making this call. Continuing to make noise with the media may eventually spark some interest and get some action that way as well.

This whole thing is just not right and is just postponing the inevitable. We all know how this will end up. Sounds like these horses have lived under this type of situation (was going to use the word 'care', but there really is none) for a long time.

I would offer to buy one, but I just could not afford the shipping at this time.

And P.S. - Duh, now I know why the orange square does or doesnt show up- figured it out. It's pretty darned handy! :bgrin

 

[hahler]

Dan and I can take a few of ANY rescues not just these.

im not sure how to copy/paste the application

and the letter from the farrier i will use how do we do that since it is us.

or do i fit in that it wont work rule. lol

someone let me know

marty or ginny you have my cell number let me know what happens since i will be at the world show for a few days and not on line.

thanks

dawn

 

[Mona]

Just edited to note I dont see any orange square on this one- I think it blew up!

That's because you already clicked on the link and no new messages have been added since. The orange box disappears when you are "current" on the messages in that link. When the next new message is added, BEFORE you click on the link, click the orange box.

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[jacks'thunder]

I just sent in my application and my offer still stands to help when I'm called apon! Now, Later, with these or others, just let me know and I'll help!

Leya