AMHA Parentage Qualification Poll

[Joanne]

I am curious about AMHA members decision on what horses they choose to Parentage Qualify.

Please comment on why you do, or do not Parentage Qualify.

Also if you think all AMHA horses should be Parentage Qualified when you DNA the horse, if possible (i.e. both sire and dam have DNA on file).

 

[Katiean]

My mare and the stallion that sired my colt were both DNA'd. I sent in my paper work and they sent it back Parentage Qualified. I didn't ask for it they just did it.

 

[StarRidgeAcres]

I'm sort of a bit of a "freak" if you will about bloodlines and like to know for sure what I have so I personally have everyone that is breeding PQd. Of course, some of my older broodmares are only DNAd because it's too late to have them PQd, but if I could go back in time I so would.

 

[Riverdance]

From what I have been told with the way AMHA is DNAing, is that they are only going back 16 points, which does not really tell you for sure who their parents really are. You can tightly line breed and get a parent qualification that is really not accurate. To be accurate I was told one had to go to, I think 64 points of matching DNA to be totally sure who's dam and sire is who's.

 

[StarRidgeAcres]

From what I have been told with the way AMHA is DNAing, is that they are only going back 16 points, which does not really tell you for sure who their parents really are. You can tightly line breed and get a parent qualification that is really not accurate. To be accurate I was told one had to go to, I think 64 points of matching DNA to be totally sure who's dam and sire is who's.

Yes, that's why it's called "qualified" else it would be called "certified" or "guaranteed" or something. But it's certainly close enough that unless you have tons of linebred AND very closely related stallions on your property, you know what you've got. It works, people should not become concerned about the test because of that statement.

 

[Riverdance]

Yes, that's why it's called "qualified" else it would be called "certified" or "guaranteed" or something. But it's certainly close enough that unless you have tons of linebred AND very closely related stallions on your property, you know what you've got. It works, people should not become concerned about the test because of that statement.

Parmala,

I am just telling what I have been told, not trying to make waves. That parent qualifying only is good if the horses are not closely bred. There are lines out there that have been closely bred for years and the 16 point count can not accurately tell you who the real parents are, thus parent qualifying for them is not truly accurate..

 

[targetsmom]

I have all the breeding stock PQ'd, usually as I take them permanent. I have only registered one foal and it never occurred to me to get him PQ'd then, but I will definitely consider it for this year's foals. I do know someone who found out when she had her horse PQ'd that the sire was NOT who was listed on the papers, and they did find out who it was and got the papers redone. At least I assume that was how they found out.

 

[StarRidgeAcres]

I have all the breeding stock PQ'd, usually as I take them permanent. I have only registered one foal and it never occurred to me to get him PQ'd then, but I will definitely consider it for this year's foals. I do know someone who found out when she had her horse PQ'd that the sire was NOT who was listed on the papers, and they did find out who it was and got the papers redone. At least I assume that was how they found out.

Hi Mary,

I too found out when I had a 2008 foal (purchased dam already in foal) PQd that the sire was incorrect. No problem, just contacted the breeder and had it fixed. Actually, the moment she was born we went "uh oh!" and wondered.

That's why her name is Total Suprise!

 

[Loess Hills]

I, too, am somewhat of a "freak" when it comes to bloodlines and proper paperwork. Since it is relatively easy to do, I am doing all our horses as the mature, and all foals.

 

I have both heard and seen incidences of horses from well-known farms who when DNA'ed did not match the parent.

 

[ruffian]

Unfortunately there have been, in the past, farms who ran numerous stallions with herds of mares, believing that a "family herd" would stay together permanently, or others who used the "if it's good, it's by THIS big name stallion, if it's not, it's by someone else!

Or others who just didn't keep up with their paperwork. So yes I like to PQ.

 

[Joanne]

Targetsmom, there is no charge if the horse is DNA'd and sire and dam are too for you to have AMHA have the foal Parentage Qualified.

If you want a new certificate showing that the horse is PQ'd you have to send in new photos, otherwise they just send you a paper saying it is PQ. New papers will be issued when they go permanent.

 

[Becky]

I Parent Qualify as many of my horses as I can. Generally, the majority of my foals and those horses that are kept as breeding stock. However, PQ alone won't make my decision as to whether to use a horse for breeding or not, since many pedigrees (some generations back) are inaccurate anyway.