Another Pit Bull Attack

[KanoasDestiny]

I thought that pit bulls are now illegal to have in Kansas??? I have a friend that was ordered by Animal Control to put her pit puppy down, because they are illegal in Kansas city. Had she opted not to put the puppy down, they would have fined her a lot of money and sceduled a court date, to take her case before a judge. The dog had no prior problems, it was solely because of it's breed.

 

[Sunny]

My heart breaks for that poor woman and her horses.

Yet another sickening, needless tragedy. Oh, and it was a pit bull. What a surpise. I hope that dog is destroyed immediately, and the irresponsible owner prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!! I hope he's banned from owning dogs ever again, and I hope he never has another good night's sleep as long as he lives.

Seems to me that pit bulls are illegal in many places. Hmmm. I wonder why. Could there really be a tendency for this breed to be more unpredictable and potentially dangerous than other breeds? Could there really be that many irresponsible owners out there? (Yeah, there probably could, actually.) I don't think these dogs have been banned from so many states and provinces just on a whim. There's obviously something wrong with this breed due to the breeding of the aforementioned irresponsible breeders.

 

[Reijel's Mom]

I have been showing, raising, and breeding Pembroke Welsh Corgis. . . Flame suit on and NOT budging!

No flames here, if every person that helped bring dog litters into this world would have your ethic than I don't think we'd be hearing much about dog attacks, now, would we?

Thanks for being a responsible person

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[lilhorseladie]

I thought that pit bulls are now illegal to have in Kansas??? I have a friend that was ordered by Animal Control to put her pit puppy down, because they are illegal in Kansas city. Had she opted not to put the puppy down, they would have fined her a lot of money and sceduled a court date, to take her case before a judge. The dog had no prior problems, it was solely because of it's breed.

That was probably a city ordinance. Usually outside of the city they are more lenient on what you can have. Our town doesn't have that law, but should have as there are many of these dogs being raised, crossed and let to run...

 

[Chpmnk1]

My heart breaks for that poor woman and her horses.

Seems to me that pit bulls are illegal in many places. Hmmm. I wonder why. Could there really be a tendency for this breed to be more unpredictable and potentially dangerous than other breeds? Could there really be that many irresponsible owners out there? (Yeah, there probably could, actually.) I don't think these dogs have been banned from so many states and provinces just on a whim. There's obviously something wrong with this breed due to the breeding of the aforementioned irresponsible breeders.

I hate to say it but obviously YOU don't seem to have ever owned a pitbull then. They are not all

"more unpredictable and potentially dangerous." Mine would gladly give his own life for me and my family and daily interacts with my young child, minis, other dogs, rabbits, etc. He's the first to greet people at the door with a tail thumping, licking before either of my 2 small dogs. Do I supervise them ALL? Of course I do, because an animal is an animal regardless and ANY BREED OF DOG can attack something. Many bully breeds, not just pits are banned due to the ones that end up in the news. You can't just lump every pitbull/staffie into one category & say they are more unpredictable, etc. It's like saying EVERY teenager loves to speed so therefore all teenagers pay higher car insurance. Sad but true. Sooo many small dogs will bite or attack something too, but guess what you never hear about them, because they are small & cute and oh, they don't cause much harm, but you will always hear about the bigger dogs. Yes, I do feel this pit should be euthanised too and immediately but I blame the irresponsible owner more than the animal.

 

[rabbitsfizz]

No, Pit Bulls are not "more unpredictable and potentially dangerous than other breeds?"

Over here where they are banned by law the law that banned them was brought in because two ROTTWEILERS killed a child!!!

It is the people, purely and simply, and the numbers of dogs kept, that are to blame.

If Rottweilers were the breed of choice for these posing morons, or Dobes then that is what would be carrying out the attacks.

When I was growing up it was all GSDs that were "vicious" and should not be kept by "ordinary" people as they were "specialist" dogs!!!

Now, simply because the wrong people are keeping them in the wrong way and without training, the BREED is coming in for all this flack!!

Which breed will be next??

Statistically more people are bitten by COCKER SPANIELS than any other breed.

So, we should ban this obvious threat to humanity??

Or we should make the OWNER responsible, completely, for the actions of the dog??

You choose!

 

[dancer31501]

I also think any dog can go after anything an kill it or try to kill it...you just dont here about it!!i have had 3 pit bulls in my life an most of my family aslo have them...we have never had a promblem with are dogs....just other dogs going after us..lil dogs...i was at a horse show with my pit bull Sovie (the brown one in the pic) an i had my horse in one had an my dog an the other an out of no where 3 lil dogs came up to us goin crazy!! they wanted to KILL my dog...i told sovie NO! an all she did was sit there...i had to pick her up till the ower of the dogs came over...the lil dogs really wanted to kill her!! an she never moved...does that sound like a bad dog that she be killed NO its not...there are lots of them..its all on how you treat the dog..an now people are saying that all pit bulls need to be put to sleep...that is very upsitting to me...i dont think a dog that has never done anything wrong should be put to sleep...if the town i lived in told me that i need to give my dog up i would move!!! i dont ever want a diffent dog!!

 

[Sue_C.]

Statistically more people are bitten by COCKER SPANIELS than any other breed.

Yes, you are correct... But also, statisically, Pit bulls ARE more likely to KILL.

If a Cocker comes after me...I am going to think, "this is gonna hurt"...a Pit comes after me, I will kiss my a** goodbye.

We have been there, done that, with this. all you have to do is gooogle "Dog related DEATHS" and you will see it. FACT - Pits, and Rotties are high on the killer-dog lists.

 

[dancer31501]

Statistically more people are bitten by COCKER SPANIELS than any other breed.

Yes, you are correct... But also, statisically, Pit bulls ARE more likely to KILL.

If a Cocker comes after me...I am going to think, "this is gonna hurt"...a Pit comes after me, I will kiss my a** goodbye.

We have been there, done that, with this. all you have to do is gooogle "Dog related DEATHS" and you will see it. FACT - Pits, and Rotties are high on the killer-dog lists.

Do the dogs above in the pic look like killers!!!! No they are not!!! It is all on how people bring any dog up!!!

 

[Sue_C.]

Do the dogs above in the pic look like killers!!!! No they are not!!! It is all on how people bring any dog up!!!

Nope, they don't. But neither did my friend's two. She ended up after having raised her two beautiful Pits, for five and six years respectively, having them both put to sleep, several months after having a daughter. She was one of the lucky ones...she recognized the building aggression before the baby and herself were seriously or fatally injured.

So...sorry, but looking at a picture of alebit very pretty dogs doesn't change either my mind...or the statistics.

 

[dancer31501]

If thats how you feel about but it could happen with any dog!!! there was an issue that should of been solved by your friend i have had many people have baby an dogs did not like it cuz no there is something new an they do not get all the attetion that they use to an there upset about...but my friends that have had "bully" breeds an got over this issue with dog trainers help...they where not going to put there dog to sleep over it..i have had i pit bull keep my little cuz safe in her own house when that was some one trying to take her a way an the pit bull saved her life!! they really are not all bad dogs!!

 

[Chpmnk1]

You know quite frankly we all have our opinions & I don't think you can change anyone's. some people are afraid of pits because of the news & the "numbers" and then some of us realise the true nature of a pit who is raised right and loved regardless of the brouhaha in the news about statistics, etc. You're not going to change my mind about my loving animal and I am not going to change yours about the "statistics".

And Jane, it's kind of funny, ironic you quoted about cockers, as I do have one of those also & yes she has bit my son on the nose and left a scar. She's quite tolerant for a cocker, but lost her patience due to my son's fault, yes and that was that. did I put her down, no, but I do supervise her and my son even more so now than before. And when I have fostered for the animal shelters or went into adopt I have heard numerous times that they will NOT adopt a cocker to a family with young children & are surprised to hear about mine.

 

[spekial]

I'm glad to hear so many people agree that it is the owner and not the breed. I own 2 pit bulls but have had several in my life, and they are my number 1 breed. But I also supervise mine 100% of the time.

I once took my 2 to a horse show on a leash at all times and with a choke chain, we went down this hall way where people had their corgi and some other types of dogs loose in the hall way, I got the dirtiest looks cause their dogs tried to attack mine, all mine did was stand up and try to guard me from being attacked by these other dogs, until I gave them the que it was ok. The show even had a rule about keeping dogs on a leash or in a stall, those dogs were not in either, and the people didn't even apologize for their dogs, they acted as if I should have said sorry cause of the type of dogs I had.

As far as dog attacks my pit bulls havn't done anything to the horses, llamas, buffalo, deer and elk I use to own. At one time I had a Keeshond, German Shepard, and a lab kill a deer and a buffalo one time. Now the Deer was in a 20ft tall chain link fence, but the ever so smart German Shepard opened the latch on the gate and got in there.

I've also owned Rottie's, Mastiff, Great Danes and they never did anything to the livestock either.

 

[Lauralee]

Here is Spike. Unknown pedigree, probably the victim of either theft or a drug deal gone bad....he was tossed from a moving vehicle at the age of approximately 8 weeks....at the end of our driveway and in the direct sight of my daughter and my husband. Spike is the biggest love. He is strange dog-aggressive, like my Anatolians taught him to be, but that is where it ends.

 

[Lisa A]

No matter the breed, irresponsible owners are I think the biggest part of this. However, even with responsible owners of highly trained dogs can have some scary situations happen with their own dogs.

A friend of mine's mom did very well in showing her Rotties a number of years ago. She bred high quality stock that also did well in the ring, and had been a Rott trainer for 20+ years. Her most prized female Rottie (7 or 8 yrs old) that she had raised from a baby, had been in numerous situations with and had never exhibited ANY sign of aggression to other dogs, animals or people turned on HER. The dog took her down by the throat with no warning and no provocation. :new_shocked: Luckily she 'restrained' herself didn't rip this woman's throat out (and no, she wasn't 'playing'). She had the dog euthanized, sold all of her Rotties, and hasn't been near one since.

The dog owners have to be responsible for containing their dogs properly, and to act to correct signs of aggression, even if it means that the dog must be put down.

 

[rabbitsfizz]

Absolutely and thanks for that excellent example, Lisa.

The breed is IRRELEVANT.

Pitbulls come into the news because Pitbulls ARE news- would they even have bothered reporting the breed of the dog if it had been JRTS or just crossbreds??

A few years ago it was all Rottweilers- "dogs from heck- Devil-Dogs" they were branded, now the press has a new breed to hound.(pun intended!!)

Once they have done that to death how will you feel when they come after your breed of choice??

The very people that are branding Pitbulls "killer dogs" will be the first to squeal when the Press come after Bulldogs or Boxers.

What MY dog, don't be silly, Boxers/Bulldogs etc are not vicious, it is the stupid owners.

TOO LATE by then, the damage is done.

A lot, a HUGE proportion of dogs show aggression towards new babies- they have been treated as "the baby" and they see this little pink thing as a usurper to the throne- quite rightly so, in dog language, too.

If people just treated their dogs as DOGS not little surrogate babies, they would have less of a problem.

Ask any animal shelter why the dogs are there- a large percentage of them will be because there is a new baby in the house- we never hear the rest of the story.

Of course if the dog shows some sort of aggression the people rehome it- there is NO way anyone in their right mind would take a chance with a new baby.

But I know of many, many introductions of babies (mainly into Dobe homes) where the little one has been welcomed with open paws- by a well adjusted dog that knew it was part of the family but also knew it was a dog.

Blame the owner, NOT the breed.

 

[ChrystalPaths]

Jane, your story reminds me about something I did when Glacia was just 2 yrs old. The dog warden had called me about an adult female dobe who was just given up by her owners because she "barked when tied all day" (duh) . Would I be interested? He knew the bitch and said she was a doll just didn't like being left alone tied.

Silly me said I'd be right over to meet her. I took Glace and we met Tai. 4 yr old black and rust and the first thing she did when she met us was to go down and expose her belly. Glacia was enthralled and before I could snatch her up she was laying on top of the dog. The tongue was flashing, the girl was squealing, the warden had tears and I was captured.

Needless to say Tai can home, my husband was shocked (rightly so). But that dog would stand for Glacia to dress up in tissue skirts and collars, necklaces earrings make up and would have died for any of us. We had a yearly pool party back then and she was always warm and ok with all she knew we invited. All we had to do was say, Tai this is.....and she'd be great. IF someone entered the house without me, she would always allow it, never bark, but stop them just inside the door and softly growl as she lowered her head. Then I'd hear a loud DEB? Now keep in mind I trained her impeccabley and she was the only dog in the house.

I think she and Belle (a rottweiler orphan I raised) were my all time favorite dogs of the past. Both were lost to cancer. It would have been tragic to have euthanized Tia just because she was a dobe and that is precisely what the warden would have been forced to do as the shelter did not allow adoptions of dobes, rotties and shepherds. Not always just the breed, but the dog AND it's owner. That said I did just get rid of (sorry) a jack russel for showing aggression to my horses and "I" raised and trained him. No second chances ever, now he is thrilled sleeping with 3 lil boys. No ponies to worry about again for him. You just never ever know.

 

[Lauralee]

I agree, don't blame a breed. BUT you CAN also include blame on the part of the BREEDERS.

Around here, rednecks inbreed their aggressive pit bulls intentionally, thinking that it will make them meaner. The dog fighting industry is STRONG in my part of the world. This industry cranks out thousands of puppies that are terribly inbred, poor quality, and mentally UNSTABLE due to their idiot breeders. The most aggressive ones are retained for fighting and the rest of the pups are sold off for $100 each.

That is where the huge majority of the pit bulls in MY area originate from.

 

[Warpony]

Pitbulls come into the news because Pitbulls ARE news- would they even have bothered reporting the breed of the dog if it had been JRTS or just crossbreds??

Excellent point. I'd also like to point out that a lot of dogs reported in the news as pit bulls are nothing of the sort. Several years ago in detroit a dog attacked a 4 year old girl. It was widely reported as being a pit bull attack. When they showed a picture of this dog is looked like Lassie! I mean it was clearly a pure bred Collie. But it was widely reported as a pit bull. The misreporting is not usually that blatant but I do know locally about half of the pit bull attacks are actually black labs. When they show pictures of the dogs they are clearly your typical heavy built black lab. I have to question the accuracy of all of these statistics when so many dog attacks are clearly reported as being by pit bulls when the dogs are clearly not even close to being a pit.

 

[dancer31501]

I am Happy to see that some pople dont think its all just pitbulls...i mean think about it...there are lots of BAD people that kill people for no reason an they are not outlawed!! so with all the people saying the pitbulls should be outlawed what about people who REALLY know that it is wrong an they still kill someone...there is never a big deal aboutthat they are not outlawed!!!