ASPC / AMHR Transfer Complaint

[Lisa Strass]

Well TWO MONTHS later, my transfer has been returned because the horse is not stationary (trotting)in one of the pictures!!! Nice to take two months to tell me that, but what frustrates me more is that in the ACCEPTABLE EXAMPLES that ASPC / AMHR has provided, there are horses that are not staionary either. :nono:

I understand it takes time to sort out changes, but this is getting ridiculous. I can only imagine how much fun I'm going to have trying to get babies registered for Congress and Nationals.

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[Reble]

I know how you feel, I sent my transfer papers into AMHA and AMHR same time Jan.05.

AMHA transfer was OK got my papers transferred into my name middle of Feb. Excepted my photos.

AMHR was returned to me end of February and have been sent back again, been about 2 weeks now.

Sure hope they except them this time. Change is sometimes hard to except.

Good Luck

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[Cathy_H]

there are horses that are not staionary either

............ And that is what I do not understand either. The foal that is trotting in the sample pictures - THAT is NOT stationary............ Is yours blurry on the legs? That is the only reason I can think of for them being returned?

 

[Boinky]

i've been reading all these posts..and it makes me upset. AMHR made a beautiful article with photo's ect about what was and wasn't acceptable..now we are hearing people being sent back because they didn't obviously match what their own article said was acceptable!

someone else posted a copy of their new photo reg. papers and had a beautiful leapard ap (with a gorgeous trot that just jumped out at me..lol) trotting along.. it ALSO had a huge weed covering it's right front leg..but it was obviously accepted. Others have posted photo's of their horses that were or weren't accepted and they never seem to have the same standards. I guess it's just irritating to know they aren't even following their own acceptable/unnacceptable things and seem to be making up rules as they go! lol i'm not looking forward to doing work this year i guess..

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

Well folks all I will say is .. there are things that take time to be worked out. I have had the same issues with AMHA they send pics back saying they are not acceptable i sent the same exact pictures back to them a 2nd time and they are suddenly ok ..

Different people will see things differently and this is new for the office-

New system new kinks to work out, new people looking at what is acceptable and what isnt. Give things a chance and time to work out- when working with human beings things happen

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[JMS Miniatures]

That was me with the filly lol.

My question is why, now, all of the sudden, do they not accept action pictures. While they are trotting you can see their entire legs, unless a huge weed isn't in the way lol. Trotting looks better. The pictures in their article, IMO, does not make the horse look good at all, they are just standing there awarkdly. I want my pictures of my horse to look decent on their registration papers, and what of pictures of them trotting IMO.

I wish someone from AMHR thats in charge of deciding why those photos and anyother rules there are and tell us.

Here are the side pictures that they accepted, the only problem they had was they were too small.

I sent mine in Dec. 06. This filly needed a color change, and since she was an appy I just told them to go ahead and hold on to them so I can get her on the new registration papers. It was well over a month, and I called them to see what was going on, and they were on hold for over a month cause the size of the pictures were wrong. So yeah if its been a while and you haven't heard from them you have to call them, they won't call you.

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[kaykay]

at the watseka clinic cathy B was there explaining pictures. they MUST be stationary. I guess they were too late to correct it in the journal before it went out again.

I also got my papers returned 2 months later and it is very frustrating. but like lisa said anytime you implement something new it takes time to work the bugs out.

Cathy also said the average turn around time is now 8 weeks so anyone wanting to register or transfer before show season needs to get them in asap.

I said before i dont think amhr/aspc was really ready to do this and should have tried a voluntary year first but this is what we have

 

[Lauralee]

That is just ridiculous! Why do the rules keep changing as we go?

 

[Cathy_H]

We sent in papers about two weeks ago. After reading all the complaints, I called first. The lady said to enclose a note to NOT return the pictures to us but to call us so I did..... We are waiting to see what happens.. One of mine was moving but was not trotting - everything was clear & visible....................................... IF they changed the requirement AFTER the sample pictures were put into the Journal then they should have SENT everyone a new sample picture page or heck get on here & let the world know. ...................................Wanted to add for those getting your papers back - If you are told not acceptable then I would call & ask why then in the sample picture that one IS acceptable? Did they change their requirements without informing the members? Put your answer here as we would like to know also. I should have asked that question a few weeks ago myself.

 

[Minimor]

I am not really surprised that they've changed from allowing action photos to requiring stationary photos. When the article came out in the Journal last August I commented to someone that I'd bet the rules will be changing on action photos being acceptable.

I imagine that a good part of the problem is the quality of photos--I'm guessing that they have received a lot of really bad action photos, and have just decided it is easier to eliminate action photos altogether. It should have been throught through a little better in advance, so that a rule change wasn't necessary, but these things happen. I can understand that there wasn't time to stop/change the article in the latest Journal, but the website should certainly have been updated immediately to reflect the new photo requirements. I just checked--the website still has the original Journal article. Very bad!

As for posing photos--the standing photos used in the examples are rather awkward looking poses as Jamie said, but it is quite possible to get decent photos with all four legs showing--either show posed with the legs just slightly offset (not as spread out as the sample photos used) or stood square in a hunter pose.

 

[midnight star stables]

Can you use photo's of horses at shows for this? I mean snap the pictures of the horse while it is all dolled up in the ring in a halter class? I don't see why not, but no one has said any thing about it. Just wondering!

 

[hhpminis]

Yes you can if all the feet show and they are from the correct angles, which are hard to get in the ring. However, I have taken registration pictures at shows before not in the arena as yes it is nice to have them pretty on the papers.

The only thing about this is that you usually need the pictures now and there is not a show now. If you can think ahead and do it then keep the pictures for when you need them that would be good but I never think ahead that far. LOL

 

[Boinky]

we all know things take time toc hange and iron out.. BUT when they directly put out an article and it said nothing about some of the stuff they are refusing photo's for, infact they had photo's of an unmobile horse as being correct!it's rediculous and i think people have the right to be upset and annoyed about it all. So what if they are getting bad action photo's from some people?? SEND THOSE BACK and tell them what they need not eliminate action all together. some action photo's are great.. if they are blury because they are action..sendt hem back and say "they are blury we need clearer photo's Or some such thing. dont' change the rules as you go I think it's also frustrating to some people because every time they send this crap back without notice it costs both the registry and the sender money in stamps and stuff (yeah it's not alot..but it all ads up!!) it also takes up alot of time and effort. If they want to change the rules they should clearly state it in another Journal article and go from there. do another write up with "corrections" and make it KNOWN things are changed yet again.