Color and registration help, 1 month old colt...more pictures

[Mima Acres]

This is Smokey. He was born May 5. He's out of my palomino and the sire is smokey black. I was thinking he is smokey black but his mane and tail color is so light. I know you can't really tell for sure without testing and it's not that important for me to know but I'm just curious and was hoping for some color guesses from those with more color knowledge than myself.

Thanks!

 

[Matt73]

Love him! Is it possible the sire is silver smokey black?

 

[disneyhorse]

Beautiful pictures. Do you have photo of the sire? The lightness of his mane/tail suggests silver, so I'll bet he's a smoky silver black. Could have a cream gene and a silver gene on black. Dam could be hiding silver.

 

[Matt73]

Or could the mare be carrying silver? Either way...I was looking at silver smokey black foals and he fits the bill...Very nice

Oops....You beat me to it

 

[Mima Acres]

Thanks! Could be SILVER smokey black, I didn't even think of that. That sounds right. My mares sire is a silver buckskin.

 

[Jill]

From the pictures, I'd also suspect smokey silver black

 

[Loess Hills]

If you had him tested, I'd say defintely silver. Silver Dilution is a dominant trait. This means, in order to inherit the trait, a horse requires only one parent to carry and pass on the gene. The Silver Dilution gene will only alter black pigmented horses (Ee or EE) and has no effect on red pigmented horses (ee). The Silver Dilution gene dilutes areas of black pigment. And the effects are certainly interesting, diluting black to chocolate, or what can appear as a dun to a smoky gray. You're going to see more changes as he matures!

Lovely, lovely mare, too!

 

[Mima Acres]

If you had him tested, I'd say defintely silver. Silver Dilution is a dominant trait. This means, in order to inherit the trait, a horse requires only one parent to carry and pass on the gene. The Silver Dilution gene will only alter black pigmented horses (Ee or EE) and has no effect on red pigmented horses (ee). The Silver Dilution gene dilutes areas of black pigment. And the effects are certainly interesting, diluting black to chocolate, or what can appear as a dun to a smoky gray. You're going to see more changes as he matures!

Lovely, lovely mare, too!

Thank you! Miniature horses come in such a beautiful variety of colors. I look forward to watching him grow, he's got a sweet temperament like his mom and I think he's going be a really nice gelding

 

[rabbitsfizz]

I don't think he is Silver I think he may be Brown base + Flaxen. There is a test for Brown but not Flaxen. Dam could have provided the Agouti....

 

[Mima Acres]

He's still covered in brown baby fuzz but he is starting to shed a little bit around his muzzle and eyes and it's looking darker underneath. Just curious if this the color he most likely will turn out?

 

[AnnaC]

Sorry, no idea about the colour, but just wanted to say that it is lovely to see some up to date pictures of him - he such a handsome little man!

 

[Mima Acres]

Sorry, no idea about the colour, but just wanted to say that it is lovely to see some up to date pictures of him - he such a handsome little man!

Thank you very much

 

[Cricket8]

I <3 that chunk! He is too cute! He reminds me of a Haflinger.

 

[horsenut50]

Oh my goodness is he cute!!!!!!!!

 

[Mima Acres]

I <3 that chunk! He is too cute! He reminds me of a Haflinger.

Oh my goodness is he cute!!!!!!!!

Thanks you guys. He's cute and a real sweetheart too

 

[Eagle]

What a gorgeous little chunky chops, mum's milk must be real good

it looks like he will change colour and go darker, I can't wait to see

 

[Mima Acres]

HAHA chunky chops! Thanks, yes he is a chunky boy!

I want to fill out his paperwork for AMHA and AMHR and wondering what color to select. I've never done this before...he certainly looks brown although he's maybe silver smokey black??? Any advice on what to select? Here's another current picture, hopefully you can see his coloring ok.

Also I noticed on AMHA that it's $10 for geldings at any age. So can I just wait until he's gelded, which I'm planning anyway. I'm not sure when to have him gelded. Does anyone know how much it would or if it would effect how tall he grows. I'm thinking he'll mature right near the 34" he can be AMHA/AMHR. I know I can't be sure he won't outgrow AMHA but I'd like to increase the odds if possible...

 

[wingnut]

Check with the registries, but when you make his papers permanent at 3 (?) could you change the color then if you no longer agree with what you initially put down?

 

[Mima Acres]

Check with the registries, but when you make his papers permanent at 3 (?) could you change the color then if you no longer agree with what you initially put down?

Good to know. Thanks

 

[Lewella]

Silvers change seasonally so he might not always be that dark.

AMHR charges for color changes regardless of age or papers being updated.

Jane - flaxen has no effect on black base colors and brown is a black base color.