Depressed Today

[WolfLady]

Was at local auction for a goat today, I swear I wish i would had more land. Shelt cross filly went for 35 dollars. Lil Colt (QH) was crip in one leg need good trim Went for 20. Has the market completly Dropped out from under???? :new_shocked:

 

[Jill]

I can't stand to think about what probably becomes of those low-priced horses :no:

 

[chandab]

The low prices scare me too, but I know some of it is due to the drought in many areas that has caused a hay shortage or the price to be sky high. some people can't or won't pay the extra high price for hay. [i was at an auction last week and was suprised that the prices, for this area, were actually holding their own; nothing under $100 - this sale has in the past had many sell under $50 with no current drought to deal with.]

When hay gets upwards of $15.00/bale (heard of that in many areas), I'd be looking at alternate feed sources; hay cubes, complete feeds and such (found many of these items for $10/bag). While pellets and cubes aren't perfect and it's best to feed with long-stem hay; they would do alot to stretch limited baled hay.

 

[Nathan Luszcz]

The auctions here stay up at kill price or higher... never seen a horse go for less than $500. Where are you where they are that cheap?

 

[nootka]

That is indeed depressing. I have to say that if that was my only alternative, I would likely choose euthanasia instead of sending them to a sale like that. I know that sometimes people take them and do good w/them, but I would be looking all over for that good home rather than a sale with little to no hope of anything other than going to slaughter after all the time they spent waiting for it. I suppose there are many circumstances which might bring that to happen beyond our control, and there remains that option (auctions).

Liz M.

 

[littlearab]

:no: Yes horse prices are real bad here too. I have freind who has given away 2 reg QHs. lat year I was given 2 arab colts.

That said I have to the problem is the "kill price". There is no "kill price". When all this stop the horse meat market started years ago, many people jumped on and "saved the horses" .All I could think even then was save them from what? i know people in Fance and other contries where horse meat is normal fair. The PETA people put out proaganded to make everyone think that dieing to feed people was a sin ,most horse poeple saw it believe it and look where it got us. Look where it got the horses. The suffering is in the long truck rides to the plants not inthe way they die. Ask any vet. And now the horse the horse meat market is going the way everyone was sure it should go, the horses wll now begin to really suffer.. the unwanted horse for want ever reason will stand in pens and stalls and wait to die. We saved them all right.

I have freind who owns a sale barn, he said there is no kill market, the PETA people seem to have won.

He told me if your in horses to make money, you better run because there is no money in it at all.

I always hear everyone saying"there will aways be a market for good horses"

:new_shocked: Really tell that to the sellers at the I 90.

I'm with Wolflady depressed and scared.

It not just minis selling poorly it all horses.

 

[WolfLady]

littlearab, You bring up a good point and ill bring up another --- As with dogs and cats when the market drops out from under like this - and there is no slaughter person there.

You have those with NO IDEA what they are doing taking these animals home and not just one or two but all they can load in a truck :new_shocked: I am refering to Hoarders. SO there are somethings worse than slaughter houses.

With two hunderd dollars I could have brought home 4 horses and couple of goats

but what kind of life would I have given all of them?

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[NVsOkapi]

Riding horses in our area, unregistered and under the age of 5 are going for about $300. :new_shocked: I think it is just a really bad time of the year right now too. no one wants to buy horses in the fall just to pay for feed for them all winter when they can't really do anything with them unless they have a heated barn. :no:

 

[Minimor]

Well, here we do still have kill buyers at the open sales, and prices are still poor; I know people that are hauling their foals to sales & saying they'll be lucky to get $100 for them, and some of those are loud colored pinto foals that a few years ago would have brought good prices & not from the kill buyers.

 

[littlearab]

I have to say I do not think horses that are well bred healthy and useful should be sold to killers. :no:

But it is a fact that the "kill price" has pretty much set the market for horses in this counrty for many years.They were the buyers for the ill, hurt, unsound poorly bred and just plain mean horses. And with that buyer in the market for the most part gone, that means the bottom has fallen out. Prices are low for all horses because there is no bottom. The horses the kill buyer purchused is now much cheaper and the buyer who is looking can buy them for $35 so way would they pay more for ours. With prices this low the poor horse will not be sold but left to suffer because the owner no longer wants or can keep them properly and will ot pay to have it put down.

The horse person who would want to buy a new horse, with a horse they can not ride or use for what ever reason, has no buyer for it, there is no price out there for it, they can't sell so must keep it, so can not buy a new horse or horses. All thier time, money and space is taken up by the what should be kill the horse.

Like Wolflady said, we can not buy all the horses for sale.. no one in thier right mind can or will. The horader and collecters will buy. Put them in poor conditions, not knowing how to care for them. A kind of H*** I would think. And the animals will suffer.

Un knowing people buying a lot horses with health issues ,untrained, wild, or just plain mean and along with the good cheap horses will be putting them all together and carring for the poorly. YUP H***.

I do not know what the answer is now.

We had a answer the "kill market" but we in this western world decided that horse were pets and not livestock and being such can not be eaten by us or anyone(very wrong, it's not our right to decide what is right or wrong for any one else) and now are left with a much bigger issue. What to do with all the horses ??

I do not want to sound like one of those who complains and does nothing.

I will breed less, breed better and to market better.

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[jennwarr84]

In MS there are still kill buyers as well. You can go to sale and get a registered mare bred for less than $300 dollars. The minis go pretty high, I think $300 might be the cheapest. I think most go for around $600 and they don't have to be registered.