horsenarounnd
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Can't seem to find my AMHR Rule book - probably put away with the show stuff. Does anyone know what rules/requirements there are for the halter color class? Is it by sex, size, pattern?
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JMS Miniatures
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And in AMHR its not judged by conformation so you just circle around the judges both ways and you stop and turn in to show your number.
Jill
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Also, solid color is for solid color and multi is for pinto and appy... If it seems obvious, I don't mind admitting at one time, I thought "well, this buckskin is mutli colored (gold & black)". So, if I thought it, maybe someone else has, too
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targetsmom
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I believe if there is any question about which class to go in, it goes by the registration papers. So, for example, our gray mare who was born a pinto and is registered as pinto so would have to go in multicolor. Of course, since she looks solid now, it would not be worth it.
Flying minis
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Right, one of the criteria is usually that they are "easily identifiable" as solid or multi-colored. My one under mare is registered as grullo with AMHR, but grullo pinto with pinto. She has to show solid in AMHR, but she has a white tail. The one time I did show her in color, I showed her in solid, and 2 judges actually asked me whether she was solid or pinto. At that time I said I didn't know, that according to AMHR she is solid, according to AMHA she is pinto, and I hadn't sent her pinto papers yet, so didn't at that time know what she was. One judge said she was solid, one said she was pinto. She obviously did not place well
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Not only that - but in most other breeds "Color Class" is for any horses registered with a color breed (Buckskin, Palomino, Paint, Pinto, etc). So when "big horse" folks show up to a mini show that's what they're thinking... I know I did!Also, solid color is for solid color and multi is for pinto and appy... If it seems obvious, I don't mind admitting at one time, I thought "well, this buckskin is mutli colored (gold & black)". So, if I thought it, maybe someone else has, too
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that's right - a pinto who's greyed out still is a pinto, so still goes in the multi-color class, even if they look snow white.
As a joke at a fun show with a friend judging, I entered a "white" horse in the multi color class (where he belonged). Judge went around the horse several times, looked under the belly, under the jaw, and under the tail, and finally came up to me and whispered - why is this horse in multi color - I whispered back - because he IS a pinto, but you can only see spots when he's wet! Obviously didn't place either LOL.
As a joke at a fun show with a friend judging, I entered a "white" horse in the multi color class (where he belonged). Judge went around the horse several times, looked under the belly, under the jaw, and under the tail, and finally came up to me and whispered - why is this horse in multi color - I whispered back - because he IS a pinto, but you can only see spots when he's wet! Obviously didn't place either LOL.
funnyfarmnorth
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Is there any guide lines for judging this class or is it just the judge's preference?
It is pretty much judges preference.
At a show this past summer with 3 judges, I entered this colt in multi color:
http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/ohmt/Secret%20Fantasy/2011-06-12_13-48-45_857.mp4
He received 2 firsts and then a 6th I believe under the other judge. The judge that didn't place him first seemed to like the minimal overos the best. It's all personal preference-some judges don't like appies (notice how few apps made top ten in multi color at nationals? There have been other years where appies are all you see place so it depends) and others don't like some overos patterns, etc. So multi color is always a toss up. I love watching them
At a show this past summer with 3 judges, I entered this colt in multi color:
http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/ohmt/Secret%20Fantasy/2011-06-12_13-48-45_857.mp4
He received 2 firsts and then a 6th I believe under the other judge. The judge that didn't place him first seemed to like the minimal overos the best. It's all personal preference-some judges don't like appies (notice how few apps made top ten in multi color at nationals? There have been other years where appies are all you see place so it depends) and others don't like some overos patterns, etc. So multi color is always a toss up. I love watching them
The AMHR does have their rulebook online at the website if you wanted to reference. The color class is incredibly fun me to judge! It's fun to see different judges opinions of color and their preferences. I would say that the majority of the horses that I place in color classes are very intensely colored (dark/rich colors, or very evenly marked patterns) as well as being well groomed to enhance the colors there.
valshingle
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For AMHR - the class is supposed to be judged 100% on color. In AMHA, I believe it is 75% color, 25% conformation. In Multi-Color you will find some judges that love apps and some very much dislike them. Some like black and white, others not. In Solid Color - a nice buckskin or silver dapple, or silver bay can do well. It really is a very subjective class, but generally intense colors are what the judges are looking for.
This horse was Res National Champ in the Over Division this year (behind a very handsome black frame overo) - he was the only buckskin pinto in the class of primarily black and whites, so he stood out:
And this horse was Res. National Ch in the under division behind a grullo pinto weanling, this horse went on to win the class at AMHA Worlds:
This horse was Res National Champ in the Over Division this year (behind a very handsome black frame overo) - he was the only buckskin pinto in the class of primarily black and whites, so he stood out:
And this horse was Res. National Ch in the under division behind a grullo pinto weanling, this horse went on to win the class at AMHA Worlds:
valshingle
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In AMHR the horse wears a show halter and you walk him around in a big circle (think Musical Chairs)around the judges. At some point the judges will have you turn around and walk the circle in the other direction. Then they will have you stop where you are and turn your numbers towards the judges. That's it. You don't have to stand the horse up or anything. It's a class that I often put young, green horses in. It's easy on the horse and they can even act up (a little) without getting penalized. If you want to get clever, you can teach the horse to lead from both sides so you will never block the judge's view of him. However, neither of my horses were led on the off side in the classes where they won - so it certainly isn't going to affect the judges that much.
It is not supposed to be judged on conformation. 100% on the color of the horse.
It is not supposed to be judged on conformation. 100% on the color of the horse.
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TopSpout
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I'm glad this topic was brought up, as it's something I'm curious about. On the flip side, what is allowed in solid color? No white at all? I tried to check the rule book online but I didn't see anything about color or solid. Not sure if this is the right link or not? http://www.shetlandminiature.com/member-services/rule-book.html
Riverrose28
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solid color may have some white, such as a sock or two, or star, blaze, etc., as long as they are not considered pinto, paint or app. This mare is River Rose Twinkling Sundown she always places well in solid color and in 2009 was 4th in AMHR National All STars, she is also my heart horse.
horsenut50
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I showed in my first AMHR show this past year and went in this class with my Perlino stallion. I placed first.
It was a fun class and thankfully since he was being naughty in the ring, that manners didn't count too much.
djskid
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The worst colour to have is a dapple gray!! Our first couple of shows with a dapple gray mare we went in the multi colour class as we were new to showing and thought that the dapples would be simial to appaloosa spots. Then we were told she should be in solid as she is neither pinto nor appaloosa so that's what we've been showing her and another filly in for the past three years. This summer we were told by a judge at a non-AMHR mini horse show that they should have been in the multi class and placed us last in the solid colour!!
The worst colour to have is a dapple gray!! Our first couple of shows with a dapple gray mare we went in the multi colour class as we were new to showing and thought that the dapples would be simial to appaloosa spots. Then we were told she should be in solid as she is neither pinto nor appaloosa so that's what we've been showing her and another filly in for the past three years. This summer we were told by a judge at a non-AMHR mini horse show that they should have been in the multi class and placed us last in the solid colour!!
Dapples are considered a solid.
I always win 1st place when putting my dappled mare in the color class, even if there's other dapples. She's just breath taking!
HOWEVER, for some reason I never place well or at all with my bay roan, and most every show Im at, she's usally the only roan on the show grounds. Roans just so you know are also considered solid color too.
