HC Minis - new pics pg 172

[chandab]

looks so brilliant Chanda! well done

you are so talented

Thank you.

 

[AnnaC]

It's fabulous Chanda - I love the arrangement of the colours.

 

[chandab]

Thank you, Anna.

Chanda

 

[chandab]

Junior is 2 months old today. Got a couple of pics of him (and the other two).





and, Junior meets Hayley:



and, Monte:



and, Manny:



I've always thought he was smokey silver black, he's been so dark and greyish looking, but now I may have to color test him, as he's lightening up around his eyes to almost a palomino color (or maybe silver buckskin):



and, my photography helper, Spot:

 

[Wings]

What a nice helper

LOVE that shot of Hayley and Junior

 

[chandab]

Yes, Spot is so very helpful with everything... Feeding, watering, cleaning and now photography.

And, someone you guys probably haven't seen, or at least not in quite some time.

Here's Dolly, she's 3 this summer, she was my first live foal:



As you can see, she hasn't missed a meal, ever. [And, now she and her mom are in the diet pen together.]

Oh, and she measured in at 33.25"; so right between Mom (35.5") and Dad (31").

 

[chandab]

Ok, so just a complaint...

If its not one thing, its another. I started Honey on a new feed last week, I actually got it by mistake (well the feed store got the wrong feed in for my

special order), but I thought she could handle it as she needed to gain a little weight and its lower carb than many feeds, boy was I wrong, very wrong. She has become footy on it, and I just hope I've stopped it soon enough, to prevent damage to her hooves, they were just getting back to normal after her last bad laminitic attack. I know I should have stopped it sooner, but guess I was in denile that it was the feed causing her issues. So back to the drawing board to figure out her diet, and I need to figure out what to do with two bags of the wrong feed (probably just dole out very small amounts to the saddle horses til its gone, and that will probably wait til winter hits, as they are plenty chubby on just pasture). [Or I'll just suck up the loss and feed it to the cattle when they come home for winter, if I spread it out thin enough no one will get too much. And, it'll just be gone.] My other option might be to feed it to the two stallions, they seem to run off much of what they eat, so small amounts shouldn't bother them, and they don't have issues to start with.

 

[chandab]

Just stunning, Chanda!!! GORGEOUS!!!!

Thank you very much. Now to get onto the next steps and get it finished, hopefully before my September quilt meeting.

And......HELLO DOLLY~! You know, it's too bad you don't feed your horses....she just looks like she's starving!

man, I know, I just have to do better.

If she could give some of it to Honey, they'd all be in good shape.

The baby pictures are just wonderful! They are all growing up so fast and are just beautiful!!! What a wonderful batch of little ones!!!

Thank you.

 

[AnnaC]

Love the picture of Dolly - what a pretty girl - shame she looks as though she could do with a bit more food! LOL!! Sorry, just joking, obviously!!

Dont know what to suggest you do with the feed you tried for Honey - what do you think it had in it to affect her feet so fast? Do hope she will soon be back to normal, bless her.

 

[chandab]

Love the picture of Dolly - what a pretty girl - shame she looks as though she could do with a bit more food! LOL!! Sorry, just joking, obviously!!

thank you.

Dont know what to suggest you do with the feed you tried for Honey - what do you think it had in it to affect her feet so fast? Do hope she will soon be back to normal, bless her.

I honestly don't know what may have caused the affect so fast, aside from she is a recovering laminitic, so just more prone and likely to show problems faster than a normal horse. She's not had issues with feed before, but it does have some different ingredients than other feeds I've tried, so probably just the combination. Hopefully I didn't set her recovery back too far with this episode.

 

[Wings]

It's always one thing or another with horses isn't it.

Hopefully she feels better soon.

 

[cassie]

sorry that your having trouble with the feed! I went to a seminar yesterday and the guy there was talking about laminitis and he gave us some really useful information... he was talking more about insulin related laminitis rather then hind gut but apparantly oaten and wheaten chaff that we have all been told to give our horses to get them to lose weight or to help prevent laminitis etc is actually helping to cause it! white chaff actually has the highest amount of sugar at something like 25% per kilo (roughly can't remember exactly) and that lucerne (as it comes from a tree based plant) is one of the lowest in sugar! WOW, also that the evening grass has the most sugar in it and that we should let our horses out early morning as overnight the grass has used the sugar to grow and by afternoon the sun has boosted its sugar levels right back up! isn't that fascinating!

not sure if it will help you, but it definitley gave me very useful information. no more white chaff for my mini's LOL (unless they are in real work)

hope your able to sort out your feed issues

 

[chandab]

sorry that your having trouble with the feed! I went to a seminar yesterday and the guy there was talking about laminitis and he gave us some really useful information... he was talking more about insulin related laminitis rather then hind gut but apparantly oaten and wheaten chaff that we have all been told to give our horses to get them to lose weight or to help prevent laminitis etc is actually helping to cause it! white chaff actually has the highest amount of sugar at something like 25% per kilo (roughly can't remember exactly) and that lucerne (as it comes from a tree based plant) is one of the lowest in sugar! WOW, also that the evening grass has the most sugar in it and that we should let our horses out early morning as overnight the grass has used the sugar to grow and by afternoon the sun has boosted its sugar levels right back up! isn't that fascinating!

not sure if it will help you, but it definitley gave me very useful information. no more white chaff for my mini's LOL (unless they are in real work)

hope your able to sort out your feed issues

I just hope I stopped using it quickly enough to not have a set back with her recovery. We've been fixing her hooves for two years after a bout with laminitis 4 years ago (the two years inbetween was during the time I had either no farrier or a poor farrier, so she got very far behind on her recovery). Her hooves were nearly normal, they look normal when she stands and only had a little ways to go for the bottoms to be normalized.

Yes, I did know morning grass has the lowest sugar level. Knew alfalfa/lucerne was typically lower in sugar and starch than many grass hays and definitely lower than grain hays (I think its what you call oaten or wheaten chaff).

I gave her a small dose of bute this morning, yes I know the risks, and it seemed to help her some, along with dropping the offending feed. She got plain soaked beet pulp today for her meals.

 

[cassie]

I just hope I stopped using it quickly enough to not have a set back with her recovery. We've been fixing her hooves for two years after a bout with laminitis 4 years ago (the two years inbetween was during the time I had either no farrier or a poor farrier, so she got very far behind on her recovery). Her hooves were nearly normal, they look normal when she stands and only had a little ways to go for the bottoms to be normalized.

Yes, I did know morning grass has the lowest sugar level. Knew alfalfa/lucerne was typically lower in sugar and starch than many grass hays and definitely lower than grain hays (I think its what you call oaten or wheaten chaff).

I gave her a small dose of bute this morning, yes I know the risks, and it seemed to help her some, along with dropping the offending feed. She got plain soaked beet pulp today for her meals.

sounds like you are doing all the right things

and I'm so happy you knew about that already, it was news to me so I was just sharing my new found knowledge and please don't think i was trying to change the way you are doing things I'm sure your giving ALL your animals the best care possible

as I said just in case you weren't aware as I had just learnt it I was wanting to share

no offence meant at all in anyway,

I'm glad you were able to give her some bute

I find that bute is brilliant to use infrequently to help with cases like these.

I really hope that everthing gets sorted out for you.

Cassie.

 

[chandab]

sounds like you are doing all the right things

and I'm so happy you knew about that already, it was news to me so I was just sharing my new found knowledge and please don't think i was trying to change the way you are doing things I'm sure your giving ALL your animals the best care possible

as I said just in case you weren't aware as I had just learnt it I was wanting to share

no offence meant at all in anyway,

I'm glad you were able to give her some bute

I find that bute is brilliant to use infrequently to help with cases like these.

I really hope that everthing gets sorted out for you.

Cassie.

No offence taken or anything like that. If you haven't seen it, here's a great website about grass: http://www.safergrass.org/ I've learned more about laminitis and founder than any horseperson wants to know and have to deal with in the last 4 years; and I really wish I hadn't had to learn it the hard way (as in having horses with laminitis).

 

[cassie]

Thanks for the link will take a look now

I'm sorry that you have had to learn it the hard way...

hoping that everthing settles down for you soon

 

[chandab]

First halter lesson for Junior and Monte today, and I have to order a new, smaller halter, so Manny will have to wait. [The halter was big on Junior and Monte, so Manny probably could have slipped right out of it.] Nothing major on the training front, just... Put the halter on, add a little pressure to the lead and wait for them to step the right direction, release pressure, repeat once or twice and remove halter. Both were pretty good about it, but Monte disliked it more than Junior.

 

[cassie]

what good boys

how exciting

good luck with the training

 

[AnnaC]

Clever boys!! How's Honey doing today - hope she's feeling a bit better.

 

[Wings]

Go the boys!