HELP!!! I can't help myself!!

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

another suggestion is to have the time to be around and plan on giving a new dog especially a rescue or an adult 2-4 days to settle in and get and see the routine so you can see it it will be able to learn to fit in

 

[jdomep]

We have a toy fox terrier and he's a great dog! Jack loves to ride in the car - but after he was kicked by a horse he's a little nervous around them. If we didn't have 3 dogs I'd take him in a second

I have a dog if you want him.  He's a toy fox terrier.  He'll be 1year in February.  It's my mom's dog and they just haven't bonded like she had hoped.  She wants to find him a good home.  Any takers?  Let me know.  He's cute and with some good training he would be the perfect dog for a cart.Christy

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[kaykay]

You know kim one thing I found out about BC is well they are not always the most assertive dogs or should I say maybe independent or maybe even insecure not sure which word it would be and her almost obsession about keeping me pleased is a huge help- she literally made 2 messes on the floor the first 24 hours and that was it..

okay now you knew id have something to say about this LOL. Lisa your dog is a mixed breed dog. again we dont know what she is mixed with or how she was brought up. this makes a huge difference in a dog! those first weeks are so important in raising a puppy and how that puppy will turn out later. Just like horses breeding history is very important in a dog. Please dont lump all bcs as being submissive and dependent because your girl is!

My border collies are very loving but are independent. A good herding dog cannot be one that is dependant on its owner as they work out and away from their handler. You happen to have a very submissive dog that has to be constantly reassured. This is not due to her having some bc in her!

I have owned and bred bc's for almost 9 years now. I get really tired of all the myths that are out there about BC's. Are they high energy? Yes. But a good BC also knows when to turn off. All three of my adult BCS live in the house. They are not crazy dogs going nuts all over the place. Anyway as you guys know i could go on forever about BC's as im so passionate about them. And many people from the forum have seen and played with my dogs (and bought a puppy and know what they are like. They are not submissive dogs that have to be reassured at every move.

her is my noah with my daughter katy. the photographer said he was the BEST dog he had ever worked with

 

[Shelley]

Hey, I'm totally with you on this one!!! I call it "puppy lust".

We already have ten dogs - 8 Salukis and 2 Siberians...oh, and a Persian Cat...but I've been wanting a small dog. Maybe it's my old age creeping up on me? LOL. Anyway, I've been wanting a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel! Have to be very careful where they come from as the breed is laden with health problems and so of course we want one from a breeder who does all the proper health testing on the parents. Knowing us we will probably want to show it if it turns out...after lots of searching we're in line for a little blenheim puppy bitch...waiting to see if she's going to be available...

I had two Aussies once up on a time and although it's a cool breed I will not own another one. Gotta remember what each breed was bred to do when you consider it...Aussies are a high energy, herding dog. They need a job to do! Defintely a dog on the go. Mine also shed a LOT.

Good luck to all those who are hoping to find that perfect little bundle!

Shelley

 

[Kim Rule]

Lisa, I know what you mean...I wouldn't trade Ash for the world...the look on 8 year old Kyle's face that Christmas morning when he came out of the crate...the really great dog he is now, he's really mellowed out...but his puppy years were a real pain in the you-know-what! He still gets excited around people that come to the house(think 75 lbs of dog jumping around and trying to run on a bare floor!). He loves to rope them into throwing one of his toys so he can play fetch. You would think he never got attention from his own family!

Ash can do the normal things...sit, lay down and shake hands. He also plays dead when I point my finger at him and say "BANG!" and rolls over. It took Kyle about 10 minutes to teach him to roll over. The cats have taught him to respect them and leave them alone...and so have the horses.

I want a little dog that's like Ash. Is that wanting too much? I'm thinking a dog between 20 and 30 lbs...so not a DINKY dog, just a little one.

The Sheltie was perfect, except she was so nervous every time anyone moved that I thought the poor thing was just going to become undone! I felt so sorry for her!

Kim R

 

[runamuk]

What about a Keeshond........they only get to 35-40lbs so one on the small side would fit the bill. If you really want a sheltie I can hook you up with some reputable breeders that could fit a dog to your family...you may have to wait on a list.....or just go to the shelter and see what strikes your fancy......last time we were there they had lots of small dogs 30lb's and under in fact there was a lhasa, a corgi looking creature, a jrt X looking critter, and several small BC X looking beasties (always lots of those due to the farming nature of our area)

Lisa, I know what you mean...I wouldn't trade Ash for the world...the look on 8 year old Kyle's face that Christmas morning when he came out of the crate...the really great dog he is now, he's really mellowed out...but his puppy years were a real pain in the you-know-what!  He still gets excited around people that come to the house(think 75 lbs of dog jumping around and trying to run on a bare floor!).  He loves to rope them into throwing one of his toys so he can play fetch.  You would think he never got attention from his own family! 
Ash can do the normal things...sit, lay down and shake hands.  He also plays dead when I point my finger at him and say "BANG!"  and rolls over.  It took Kyle about 10 minutes to teach him to roll over.  The cats have taught him to respect them and leave them alone...and so have the horses. 

I want a little dog that's like Ash.  Is that wanting too much?  I'm thinking a dog between 20 and 30 lbs...so not a DINKY dog, just a little one. 

The Sheltie was perfect, except she was so nervous every time anyone moved that I thought the poor thing was just going to become undone!  I felt so sorry for her! 

Kim R

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[Magic]

My "little dog" is a West Highland Terrier/ Scotty mix, about 25 pounds. Great dog. Pretty much fearless-- she'll take on any size dog that dares try to come on HER property, lol! Very smart, loving, and obedient too. She's lived her entire life in the house with two cats and completely respects them, yet will chase stray cats that come in the yard.

I agree with KeeperOfTheHorses though-- be prepared for some good-sized vet bills and all the extra costs of another family member. The vaccinations and neutering and then if anything were to go wrong... and then the cost of lots of bones and chew treats so that the damage to your house and "stuff" is at a minimum, lol!

I hear ya though; I've been thinking about when I can get a Livestock Guardian Dog and I am getting excited about it.

Just remember that dogs are a lot of work, kind of like having a baby. You might want to wait until summer when you would have the time (and better weather) for house training it, etc. Let us know what you get if you get one!

 

[Kim Rule]

Runamuk...Last I looked on the Shelter website, the dogs are too big...nothing I can see that will fit the bill. But I'll have to check into a keeshond. Ash's daddy was bigger than what you say...but he was a pretty dog...I wonder how they do in hot weather?

I may be calling you about the Sheltie breeders...!

Lori, yes, I've seen your little dog, and he is a cutie! Believe me, everyone will know when I get my little dog!

Kim R.

 

[runamuk]

Runamuk...Last I looked on the Shelter website, the dogs are too big...nothing I can see that will fit the bill.  But I'll have to check into a keeshond.  Ash's daddy was bigger than what you say...but he was a pretty dog...I wonder how they do in hot weather? 
I may be calling you about the Sheltie breeders...!

Lori,  yes, I've seen your little dog, and he is a cutie!  Believe me, everyone will know when I get my little dog!

Kim R.

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Which shelter?....I know for a fact the canyon county site only ever has about 1/2 the dogs on it.........as she does not have the time to update as frequently as the dogs become available and or get adopted.......when we went down there none of the dogs I mentioned were even on the site but all were available...and if you tell them what you are looking for they will let you know if any of the "others" are coming available that might be right.........

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

Kay... I understand they arent all the same and insecure might not be the right word but i guess it is the constant reading of me I am not used to my other dogs could really care less what type of mood i am in and would rather die then anticipate what I might want them to do next unless it involves eating or sleeping

 

[Erica]

Yep I am there with you........I have been wanting a Chinese Crested for ages....but I have my miniature dashound that I have had since I was 5 yrs old still - he will be 17 FEB 2nd. And as much as I want another puppy (a hairless one

) I can't make myself do it yet, as I feel I will be giving too much attention to the new puppy than to Bart. He is just my one and only and totally rotten, and I think he wouldn't be fond of the idea.

 

[kaykay]

thats ok lisa. I just want to be sure people know that ISNT a bc trait (being overly submissive)

I owned a sheltie before i got bc's. We had to put her down due to an inherited skin disease known to shelties. It broke my heart so be very careful who you buy from. Also pls know that shelties are from the herding group and bark A LOT. I trained mine not to bark but it is hard to do. Most shelties unfortunately arent good herders anymore as they have been bred to be pretty but they will still show some herding traits.

 

[Kim Rule]

Rory, I haven't checked out Canyon County, only Ada county. I'll give them a shot...

Hey everybody, thank you so much for your suggestions...I'll be investigating some of the breeds you have told me about...and checking out a couple more shelters.

Who knows, maybe I'll get a puppy for Christmas!

I'll let you know what I get!

Kim R.

 

[keeperofthehorses]

Kim; I adopted my little Buddy dog at Canyon County. He was the only little dog there and they had him in a cage in the cat room. I almost didn't find him because I was in the kennel area (all big dogs) and decided to go say 'hi' to the kitties on my way out. And there he was!

There's another shelter in Nampa, a no-kill, across the cross-street from the old Edmark Chevy on the blvd. Can't remember the name. And there's a shelter in Fruitland, right across the street from the mexican restaurant on 95. They are the ones that took all those little dogs from that lady in OR a few years back. I believe they are no-kill. I believe both of them list on Petfinders.com.

Oh! That's another possibility. All of the pets without homes after the hurricanes. Petfinders was still looking for homes for many last I looked. There would be logistical issues with transportation, but with all the horses moving around the country, you might be able to hitch-hike a dog.

I'm excited for you! This is going to be our new group project.

 

[Sue_C.]

I would absolutely not go JRT, with the cats you have. They are known to be cat killers...just the way they are made to be.

Whatever breed you decide to get, remember you want to take it in the cart with you. (I think you said you did) It has to be light enough to not affect the shaft weight on your horse, if the dog is sitting in the basket. It really makes a very big difference to have the weight there, and not up on the seat.