Eagle
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Sorry Diane, number 6 is a boy
Odette *colt*, Britt *colt*.
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Eagle
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7 so far
6 boys
1 girl
6 boys
1 girl
eagles ring farm
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wow congrats on the new puppies
waiting for pics
waiting for pics
Eagle
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Now we have 8
2 girls and 6 boys
It is 3.00am and i am sooooo tired
2 girls and 6 boys
It is 3.00am and i am sooooo tired
Eagle
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4.15am and number 9 has just arrived. It is another boy.
Eagle
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Surprise ....puppy number 10 is a boy too. I hope she is going to be able to feed all these pups. I have never had puppies that make this much noise before, is it normal for them to whimper so much?
LittleBittyBritches
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oh my! Lots of puppies there, you and izzy must be exhausted!
a mini dream come true
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Congradulations Renee and Izzy!
. WOW! Ten that's a lot. Not too sure about the whimpering. The dashounds haven't ever whimpered with me so i'm not sure about weimers.
Eagle
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Thanks everyone. I will try and rotate them so they all eat, it won't be easy cos they all look the same
Maybe that is just lack of sleep.
Here is a quick pic, I will get better ones later
Here is a quick pic, I will get better ones later
Morning Renee - how's you doing my friend??? Sorry I had to leave you and Izzy last night, but it looks as though you have both been doing a great job!!
Do you think she has finished whelping - there is often one left, especially if it has been a long birth and the bitch is tired. A little tip that I was given is to watch the bitch - if she can curl up to take a rest then all the puppies have been born, if she finds that difficult and keeps 'flopping' back to lay flat out, then you might have a retained last pup.
And yes! new puppies can make a load of noise and not just little polite whimpers either!! As Diane says, you will have to play 'shuffle puppy' for several days until Izzy organises her milk supply to feed them all. Oh the joys of coping wih a large litter! My g/dane had 13 in her first litter - I thought she was never going to stop 'shedding' puppies when she whelped!! I was totaly exhausted for 10 weeks as after all the puppy shuffling, one passes on to the difficulty of introducing and feeding puppy food to all those hungry little bodies. LOL!!
But it was always a wonderful experience and great fun, so, once you catch up on your sleep, enjoy yourself.
Many Congratulations to you and Izzy.
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Do you think she has finished whelping - there is often one left, especially if it has been a long birth and the bitch is tired. A little tip that I was given is to watch the bitch - if she can curl up to take a rest then all the puppies have been born, if she finds that difficult and keeps 'flopping' back to lay flat out, then you might have a retained last pup.
And yes! new puppies can make a load of noise and not just little polite whimpers either!! As Diane says, you will have to play 'shuffle puppy' for several days until Izzy organises her milk supply to feed them all. Oh the joys of coping wih a large litter! My g/dane had 13 in her first litter - I thought she was never going to stop 'shedding' puppies when she whelped!! I was totaly exhausted for 10 weeks as after all the puppy shuffling, one passes on to the difficulty of introducing and feeding puppy food to all those hungry little bodies. LOL!!
But it was always a wonderful experience and great fun, so, once you catch up on your sleep, enjoy yourself.
Many Congratulations to you and Izzy.
Eagle
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oh and one of the outside mares that Eagle covered last year foaled a colt.
bannerminis
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Oh congrats on all your puppies. So glad they were all born safely and Izzy is good too.
Oh and Eagles new son is just a doll. Beautiful markings too. You must be getting even more excited now to see what your ladies have.
Oh and Eagles new son is just a doll. Beautiful markings too. You must be getting even more excited now to see what your ladies have.
cassie
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Wow!!! Izzysuppies are so gorgeous!!! And eagles new colt is stunning, quick question... If both he n mum were black how come the foal is chetnut? Still so new to colors n genetics lol
Congrats again! I bet your ot getting much sleep at the moment you poor thing!
Izzy has done a wonderful job for a first time mum
you Gil's are both going to be busy lol
Congrats again! I bet your ot getting much sleep at the moment you poor thing!
Izzy has done a wonderful job for a first time mum
bannerminis
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Cassie a quick colour explanation.
All horses have a base colour and is either Red or Black based.
Chestnut horses are always homozygous for red so are "ee"
A horse that is black based can be "EE" or "Ee" - EE means the horse carries 2 copies of Black so can never have a chestnut foal and a horse that is "Ee" carries black AND red so its 50/50 on which gene they will pass.
So that means the even though both parents of this foal are Black based they must both be "Ee" so as it happened this time around both parents passed on the red gene to the foal and the result is a chestnut foal which makes him "ee"
All horses have a base colour and is either Red or Black based.
Chestnut horses are always homozygous for red so are "ee"
A horse that is black based can be "EE" or "Ee" - EE means the horse carries 2 copies of Black so can never have a chestnut foal and a horse that is "Ee" carries black AND red so its 50/50 on which gene they will pass.
So that means the even though both parents of this foal are Black based they must both be "Ee" so as it happened this time around both parents passed on the red gene to the foal and the result is a chestnut foal which makes him "ee"
OK Karina, now you have got me started on colours LOL!! My Falabella stallion is liver chestnut, but does throw black foals, so he must be black based but dark chestnut in colour? And Dragon, who is bright chestnut and white (using English colour terms here!) has also thown a solid black foal from a piebald mare who then also threw a bright chestnut and white from him last year. So both Ansel and Dragon must be Ee but wit no sign of black hairs anywhere???
Oh how I love these colour combinations!! LOL!!
How's our clever girl (not you Renee!!) this morning, and are those perfect little puppies behaving themselves?
Oh how I love these colour combinations!! LOL!!
How's our clever girl (not you Renee!!) this morning, and are those perfect little puppies behaving themselves?
bannerminis
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Anna what colour are the mares??
As you only need 1 copy of black to make a black based foal so if the mares are black or black based then it came from them.
Chestnut horses do not carry black they are "ee".
For eg. Slaney is "ee" because she is a red based horse and she also has 1 copy of the cream gene and she also has dun.
Banner is "Ee" so he has 1 red and 1 black but he is a black based horse and then he also carries 1 copy of Agouti and Cream so thats what makes him Buckskin.
So then their foal from last yr got 1 red copy from Slaney and 1 black from Banner which makes him a black horse but then he also got a cream from Slaney and a cream from Banner and then Dun from Slaney which now makes him a Smokey Cream Grullo but his base colour is Black but he would also be Ee having gotten a red from Slaney. Black is dominant over red
I hope I am making sense and not confusing anyone (put it down to very little sleep LOL)
As you only need 1 copy of black to make a black based foal so if the mares are black or black based then it came from them.
Chestnut horses do not carry black they are "ee".
For eg. Slaney is "ee" because she is a red based horse and she also has 1 copy of the cream gene and she also has dun.
Banner is "Ee" so he has 1 red and 1 black but he is a black based horse and then he also carries 1 copy of Agouti and Cream so thats what makes him Buckskin.
So then their foal from last yr got 1 red copy from Slaney and 1 black from Banner which makes him a black horse but then he also got a cream from Slaney and a cream from Banner and then Dun from Slaney which now makes him a Smokey Cream Grullo but his base colour is Black but he would also be Ee having gotten a red from Slaney. Black is dominant over red
I hope I am making sense and not confusing anyone (put it down to very little sleep LOL)
Yay, Izzy! Wow!! 10 puppies for her first litter! Very good job, Queen Izzy!
I had a Rottie mix that was not meant to be bred but my ex let it happen. She had 13 puppies and 2 did not make it. One was retained and birthed still born about 12 hours after the others had all been born. And one made it until it was up and exploring but chewed on a cord and was shocked. But she was able to feed the others all on her own. You had to move them for her because with so many she almost would smush them trying to find a spot to lay down.
Good luck Izzy and Renee with all your new babies and motherhood!
And a congrats to Eagle too!
I had a Rottie mix that was not meant to be bred but my ex let it happen. She had 13 puppies and 2 did not make it. One was retained and birthed still born about 12 hours after the others had all been born. And one made it until it was up and exploring but chewed on a cord and was shocked. But she was able to feed the others all on her own. You had to move them for her because with so many she almost would smush them trying to find a spot to lay down.
Good luck Izzy and Renee with all your new babies and motherhood!
And a congrats to Eagle too!
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