Overo Breeding.

[Reble]

My Stallion is Homozygous for Pinto. and has been tested for LWO he is Negative, being he has Rowdy in his bloodline.

So if I breed my Overo Filly in a few years.

What are the odds to get an Overo foal?

Just wondering...

 

[cretahillsgal]

If the filly is LWO+ then she would have a 50/50 chance of passing it on.

BUT overo sometimes only shows up as a star or snip, very little white.

 

[Reble]

If the filly is LWO+ then she would have a 50/50 chance of passing it on.

BUT overo sometimes only shows up as a star or snip, very little white.

thanks wanted to know the odds, how do people get the unusual marks of Overo.

Any of Rowdy's bloodline should be tested for LWO

 

[Eohippus]

If the filly is LWO+ then she would have a 50/50 chance of passing it on.

BUT overo sometimes only shows up as a star or snip, very little white.

Overo is tricky! My stallion has a star, snip, and little bit of white on a leg and we think he's LWO+ being he has a lot of paint and overo in his lines . He's getting tested this season (no need to do it before as he wasn't breeding yet).

thanks wanted to know the odds, how do people get the unusual marks of Overo.

What unusual marks of overo are you talking about? Splash overo?

 

[Reble]

What unusual marks of overo are you talking about? Splash overo?

I am not sure what is is called but have seen Kickapoo has what I mean.

 

[Eohippus]

I am not sure what is is called but have seen Kickapoo has what I mean.

Is it frame overo? Where the white is on the sides but not top and bottom of the horse? Like on Apache Moon?

 

[kaykay]

Are you referring to Frame overo? Those are the usually uniquely marked overo horses. Splash can also cause some wild color but can also cause mostly white horses.

Here are a couple of our frame overo's

Our stallion Feature who has sired a lot of wild colored ponies

One of his look a like frame daughters

 

[Reble]

Are you referring to Frame overo? Those are the usually uniquely marked overo horses. Splash can also cause some wild color but can also cause mostly white horses.

Here are a couple of our frame overo's

Our stallion Feature who has sired a lot of wild colored ponies

One of his look a like frame daughters

yes Kay, the Overo Frame is correct..

 

[Eohippus]

From what I understand, since the LWO+ is the frame overo gene then you have a chance of producing a frame when breeding LWO+ to LWO- (I've seen loudly marked frame overo's come from solid mares, the sire was the LWO carrier)

 

[Reble]

From what I understand, since the LWO+ is the frame overo gene then you have a chance of producing a frame when breeding LWO+ to LWO- (I've seen loudly marked frame overo's come from solid mares, the sire was the LWO carrier)

So him being rowdy in his back ground and is LWO- and she is Frame Overo LWO+

I might get lucky...that is sure what I am hoping..

 

[targetsmom]

If your stallion is H/Z for tobiano then you cannot get a "plain" frame overo if you breed to your overo filly. You would have a 100% chance of the tobiano getting passed to the foal and a 50% of frame, so a 50% chance of getting a tobiano/frame or "tovero". Max is such a combination, very colorful, except of course he is going gray which I assume you don't have to worry about!

 

[Kelsey - Vandy's Farm]

You will not get an overo foal. Your stallion homozygous for pinto meaning that he carries two tobiano genes. There is 100% chance that he will throw that gene so your foal will for sure be a tobiano. There is a 50/50 chance that your mare will throw her overo gene (I'm assuming she is a frame overo and not a splash). If she throws her overo gene you will have a tovero. If she doesn't, you will get a tobiano. You will not get a pure overo though because of the sire.

 

[targetsmom]

Don't forget that Rowdy was LWO+ and how many of HIS foals looked like the classic frame overo? Not very many. But he did pass the LWO+ down the line.

 

[Reble]

Yes, he is Homozygous for Tobiano, and his bloodline has Rowdy

and she is frame Overo / LWO+

 

[Dona]

What Kelsey said is very true. That is why I don't use any Homozygous tobiano horses in my program.

You will always get the Tobiano gene passed on, which will at least partially obliterate the full Frame pattern.

I use solids & heterozygous tobianos/sabinos as broodmares to cross with my Frame stallion. I find this gives me the best combination to come up with some full Frame patterns, as well as some wildly marked combination patterned Toveros.

 

[Reble]

thanks Donna, always loved your colored horses.

Oh well, he is here to stay, being I love to know I will get color.

But darn, wish I could have had an frame Overo, always interesting learning

about these colors, and how they are produced..

 

[midnight star stables]

What Kelsey said is very true. That is why I don't use any Homozygous tobiano horses in my program.

You will always get the Tobiano gene passed on, which will at least partially obliterate the full Frame pattern.

I use solids & heterozygous tobianos/sabinos as broodmares to cross with my Frame stallion. I find this gives me the best combination to come up with some full Frame patterns, as well as some wildly marked combination patterned Toveros.

I am with Donna, I breed for only Frame and Sabino overos. Personally I dislike Tobianos and try my darnedest to never use them in my program. That said a good horse is a good horse, and I have/will breed my grey tobiano mare Joy(but she is not homozygous and was bred to a LWO+ stallion).

My frame/sabino is bred to a solid in the very hopes that she will give me a loud frame FILLY(Praying!

). Happy foaling season Reble