Percheron Stallion

[Sun Runner Stables]

I love crosses, and have seen lots more good then bad. Living in warmblood central, (South FL)

I would also pick a different stud for me, but then again, I have the access! Chances are, you will get what you are thinking off IMO.

If his other foals look decent, and she has had good looking foals herself, typically the cards fall your way in my experience.

I have had a few bad crosses, but in those cases, one of the parents was unproven, (normally the mare) and would prove in later foals to simply be an inferior producer.

I would say go for it, and enjoy a pretty baby next year, just post pic's for us to drool over.

I am not a purebred arab fan myself, having ridden to many inbred crazy one's left over from the breeding boom from the 80's, (Stop giving me dirty looks Fizz!

) but I Love arab crosses, and go out of my way to have them for my show/lesson ponies/horses. Nothing is smarter, prettier, or more versitial! IMO.

*remember to promise pictures* We all love pictures!!

 

[Jenn]

I'm with Rabbitsfizz on this one ... I just wouldn't do it.

I'm not a fan of breeding horses just because you have a mare and want another horse. In the end, it's FAR cheaper to buy a horse that is already everything you want. And if you're wanting a warmblood-type horse, there are an abundance of them out there - many of them Percheron crosses. And they can be had cheap - nice young horses going for just a few hundred dollars in many areas.

In any case, I wouldn't choose that stallion. I'm not a fan. I don't see much there to commend him. If he were mine, I would have gelded him as a yearling. Your mare deserves MUCH better.

 

[~Palomino~]

NOPE-NOT GOING TO WORK!  You can just send her my way-its not going to work...lol....j/k
I LOVE arabs!  There is  pretty stallion just close to me and WHAT a Beauty he is!

The site isnt working right now or I would show it to you!

Gage

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OK, what's your address. I'll ship her out to you!

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REALLY

.....IN MY DREAMS LOL!

Fizz, Sorry your just to far away....lol.....she can only travle as far as here!

Gage

 

[rabbitsfizz]

Nonsense, it doesn't cost much more to transport a big horse than a Mini!! AND I have the room!!!

Nady na na

 

[Loren&Rocky]

Velvet will be a word travler by the time she gets around to all of you!!

 

[Firefall]

Ok I'm confused. How come you can breed such a big stallion like that to her and she can deliver safely? With minis its a big no no, why? What is the difference?

Now get some crayons out and draw me a picture...............

 

[Loren&Rocky]

Ok I'm confused. How come you can breed such a big stallion like that to her and she can deliver safely? With minis its a big no no, why? What is the difference?   
Now get some crayons out and draw me a picture...............

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I don't know the answer to that exactly, but I think a big horse is bigger everywhere, inside and out. So, you can get away with breeding a big stallion to a smaller mare that way. People breed horse stallions to ponies all the time to get sport ponies.

The 2 babies I have out of Velvet (14.3h)are sired by a 17h Andalusian. She took a little longer to have her second one than the first, but both were normal births.

 

[Sue_C.]

Another thing to remember, is that although HE might not be "big and burly", genetically, he could throw huge foals. His foal's body mass is most likely going to be much bigger than a warmbloods, no matter the height of either.

 

[RAPfrosty]

Like people have been saying, I'm sure there are atleast some extra risks in this breeding but then again, like you said theres always a risk. Either way, they are both drop dead GORGEOUS

and I'm sure if you do decide to breed them you will have one good looking baby!

 

[Bess Kelly]

I REALLY like your mare, REALLY !!! A lovely horse and I'm an Arab perspm/

Now, if YOU are happy iwth that stallion, that's your call. He is not what I would consider comparable to your mare, quality wise. BUT, I'd not outcross that mare if she were mine -- I'd stay arab.

Can I get in line to own her?????

 

[Loren&Rocky]

I REALLY like your mare, REALLY !!!  A lovely horse and I'm an Arab perspm/
Now, if YOU are happy iwth that stallion, that's your call.  He is not what I would consider comparable to your mare, quality wise.    BUT, I'd not outcross that mare if she were mine -- I'd stay arab. 

Can I get in line to own her????? 

 

 

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Well, if there were ANY half way decent Arabian stallions here I would breed her to one, but I have not found one yet. Also, for a "keeper" horse, I personally want a cross.

Take a number. I think you are number 4 in line to own her but I think I could not possibly part with her!!

 

[Leeana]

I would say go for it.

You seem to already have your mind well made up, and nothing someone says that you dont even know is going to change your mind. When you spend all that money for something and then get told 'no, dont do that' ...you seem to put them aside. I been there. I think you will be just fine though. We had a big half belgian a couple years ago bred to a QH mare just over 14 hands and she did fine. Dad had a friend of his bring a stud to our mare and we bred it for him and got it up to a yearling and sold it to him ..so it was all him. We knew our mare had no trouble delivering babies in the past and had expirence so we had faith.

Its a chance you must take ....go for it. But then you dont have to listen to me ..do whatever you want, no pressure.

Leeana

 

[Sonya]

Both horses are beautiful. It sounds like you researched everything. I think the baby will be beautiful and I can't wait to see pics.

 

[FairytailGlennMinis]

You asked for opinions and I think that is great. First off, I LOVE your mare!!! I love the look of nice arabs, but have never really liked to ride them--I like more substance for a riding horse, myself. I do love a lot of the arab crosses and have seen quite a few VERY nice arab/draft crosses as well as a few draft cross flops. That said, I don't like that stud--he doesn't look balanced to me at all and pieces of him look like he is a badly put together puzzle with parts from different horses that don't match. I think if you are working with an experienced and knowledgable vet and she says this particular mare is okay for breeding a warmblood then it is yours alone to decide to trust and go with that or not. I can just picture a draft cross from this mare...but I wouldn't use that particular stallion. Your mare is awsome quality and the stallion is just not up to her level. I love percherons dearly...and that is NOT a good example of one. If you want a perch/arab cross I think that is great--but I just don't like that one as the stud. I had a perch cross and a clyde in my therapeutic riding program and I wouldn't have given up my perch for all the tea in china. He is now retired and still totes little kids around--bareback, no bridle, just him and his charges.

Good luck no matter what you decide--I can't see anything coming from that mare not being gorgeous.

-Amy

 

[Jill]

I have to agree with what some of the others here have said.

Your mare is gorgeous! Simply stunning. That stallion is "cute" but he doesn't look like a breeding quality animal. I just wouldn't use him on that exquisite mare of yours, both because he doesn't equal her quality and also because he is so big boned and stocky.

 

[runamuk]

I haven't read all the replies......but one of the farms I used to work at stood several arab stallions and there was a gentleman who brought his percheron mares to one of the stallions year after year....the cross produced wonderful sporthorses ...that honestly sold for more than alot of the purebreds......I think your mare would cross nicely with a percheron and the result is typically pretty darn nice...

 

[Leeana]

He looks pretty promising to me. I mean its not like she is wanting a NATIONAL CHAMPION out of these two. Just something for trail, i think she has a pretty good pare there. Its going to have size with refinement. I'd love to have that colt.

Leeana

 

[crponies]

This cross reminds me of what many PMU ranches do. Have you checked into getting a PMU foal?

 

[Ferrah]

You know I still think this cross could go positively for you, but as with crossbreeding in any animal you could find all the parts in the wrong spot. As long as you are willing to deal with whatever you get, I say go for it.

As said above I would also try some PMU farms, many of them do these draft horse crosses. And they sell horses at weaning age so you can still raise one from a young age so it turns out the way you like.

 

[Sue_C.]

one of the farms I used to work at stood several arab stallions and there was a gentleman who brought his percheron mares to one of the stallions year after year....the cross produced wonderful sporthorses ...that honestly sold for more than alot of the purebreds......I think your mare would cross nicely with a percheron and the result is typically pretty darn nice...

Thing is, the drafts were the mares...no inordinate risk there.

but as with crossbreeding in any animal you could find all the parts in the wrong spot.

Yep.