Sweatpea as a newborn and a 2 month old

[muffntuf]

I just wanted to post an updated pic of Sweatpea - the last mini foal probably for my farm. As you can see she was born sorrel with 4 whites. But she has been slowly transforming and either she is going white or grey.

If anyone has had that happen, I would like to hear about it! LOL!

newborn:

May 28th:

 

[MyBarakah]

I had a foal that looked like she would turn into a silver bay or silver dapple and she turned white... but would be registered color as grey. Looks like your foal is turning into a light grey and looks like she will most likely turn more white and miss the grey color just like my filly did. She deffinately got the grey gene.

 

[Sunny]

I'm no colour expert, but a true grey is usually born either black or, as possibly in your case, sorrel. Think Lippizaners that are born black, and Arabs that are black or sorrel, or many of the Michigan ponies, too, now that I think of it, that turn that beautiful pure "white". What colour are the sire and dam, etc. of your filly?

 

[Ashley]

A horse can be any base color and turn grey, I have had blacks, sorrels, bays and buckskins turn grey. The gene doesn't care the base color at all. However, when you register her I would put sorrel, then in markings put may change color. IF you don't do that you could have issues if you ever show her, plus for later down the road people still know her "true" color.

 

[muffntuf]

Dam is Black and White Tobiano with sabino, the sire was sorrel but goes back to Gold Melody Boy and Whitmacks Mickey Mouse.

Does that help anyone?

 

[Becky]

Do you have pictures of the sire and dam? That foal looks to be turning grey, as in true grey, not silver dapple. It takes one grey parent to produce a grey, so one parent would have to be grey.

 

[targetsmom]

What do you mean that the sire was sorrel?? Sorrel before he turned gray??? One parent has to be gray (true gray, with the graying gene) in order for the foal to turn gray. The rate of turning gray can vary a lot so if you use the past tense because the sire is dead (hope that isn't the case), then it is possible hecarried the graying gene.

 

[Jill]

She is definitely going grey (will eventually look white). I love grey horses and have a few. She's looking to progress quickly to "white".

I'm no color expert, but a true grey is usually born either black or, as possibly in your case, sorrel. Think Lippizaners that are born black, and Arabs that are black or sorrel, or many of the Michigan ponies, too, now that I think of it, that turn that beautiful pure "white". What color are the sire and dam, etc. of your filly?

This isn't actually the case. A "true grey" can be born absolutely any color. It is a gene in addition to the regular color genes. I have had true greys that were born born grullo, grulla, black and palomino. They can be any color under the sun but if a parent was true grey, then there is a 50/50 chance the resulting foal inherited the grey gene. If both parents were grey, then there's the added chance that the foal will be homozygous for it and that every foal by or out of that horse will also turn grey

 

[muffntuf]

Nope Imagine was sorrel as sorrel can be. The dam is black and white tobiano with sabino ( hard sabino).

But I know they can turn, usually a majority of foals will. The hairs around her eyes are white and I figured that was the sabino gene. But the underlying coat looks to be gray.

Hmmmm - I wonder if she will eventually turn white and then does she carry the LWO gene? (That would be a bummer)

Dam Sue's Lil Laptop Angel:

Sire: Dusty Lane's GMB Imagination

Result: Sweatpea

 

[Becky]

The dam looks to me like she could be grey. Any appy behind her? Another possibility would be varnish roan. That white mane makes me suspicious. And no, LWO would not make her turn 'white'.

You can color test the foal and/or the mare for grey for $25. Then you would know for sure. The foal still looks to be carrying a grey gene to me.

 

[muffntuf]

Oh I understand LWO wouldn't turn a horse white or grey, just wonder if she carries it now.

The dam has appy markings around eyes and rear, etc. So does the filly. First thing I noticed.

 

[targetsmom]

We have an LWO+ mare that is gray (almost white) and I wouldn't say it was a "bummer". She is registered with PtHA based on baby pictures (has an ROM in halter) and just gave us a spectacular pinto colt. Even if he turns gray, he still has the same genes, just with gray added! To me, that just adds to the variety. I just pulled hair to have him tested for LWO (he has a wide blaze and blue eye), silver and gray. We think he is a silver bay pinto, frame & tobiano, with one blue eye... and maybe gray.

 

[rabbitsfizz]

The mare actually looks Silver Black...is that so or is it a very light picture??

If the mare has Appy characteristics that is your answer as there are no two ways with Grey, either a parent is Grey or a parent is incorrectly identified, you cannot, under any circumstances, get a Grey foal without a Grey parent.

So, if the sire and dam are correct then a colour has been misidentified, and in this case I am pretty sure your foal is varnishing out, it is unlikely that she will get any spots, though.

The LWO gene has nothing to do with the animals colour, it is a pattern, and it can be carried by an animal that is virtually solid or wildly patterned, there is no rhyme or reason to it.

As has been said, Grey can appear on any base colour and pattern whatsoever.