Freakin' dogs!!

[Cronewolf]

:new_shocked: This is awful. I hate the idea of shooting dogs for being the pack animals they are, but you can't risk your horses to them. By the way you don't really need a bitch in heat for bait. the used [recently]

bedding of one will often work just as well. The scent will travel for miles to dogie noses.

 

[Denise]

So Brianna your saying I should feel sorry for these dogs and let them kill my horses?? I MUST be misreading your post.

: I will kill these dogs anyway I can, even if I have to corner one and beat it with a baseball bat! And I will not feel guilty and I will sleep quite well. We are trying to find the owners if there are any for restitution. So if one of my minis does get torn apart like lets say Oliver who is only 8 weeks old I'll send you the pictures. You might want to do a search of mini attacks and take a good long look at the pics and you then come back and tell me thats what you want to happen to my horses.

You ask why would I be trying to kill someones pets-because my dear they are on OUR property killing our stock and now are after OUR horses on OUR property. What do you not understand??? If it was your dog on my property it would be dead also, but I hope your not one of these irresponsible owners and let yours run loose. Our neighbor on the back half shot and killed 2 dogs and put them on the guys porch! Way to go buddy!!

Our entire 29 acres is hog paneled in and they still dig under and keep coming, so we will do anything to protect our stock!

You have to remember when the family dog gets together with a few of his buddies its now a pack out looking for trouble, what if they attack a child? These dogs should be sent home to do this again or should they be destroyed??

 

[MBennettp]

We have shot several dogs that were on our property after the livestock. Once a dog starts killing livestock, it cannot be re-trained not to do so. The SSS solution is the best one. We have had to do this with family members dogs too.

If the dog owner really cared about the dog, they would keep it contained so it wouldn't be where it could get hurt. If these dogs are running loose, they have very irresponsible owners.

Don't be too hard on Brianna, she has evidently never seen a dog attack.

Mary

 

[angelridge]

OMG! So if I understand this right NVs Okapi is saying NOT to shoot the dogs? And if they were her dogs she would shoot the person who shot her dogs while that person was trying to protect their pets, livestock, horses??????

If I am foolish enough to let my dogs run loose and they hurt, maim, or kill someones livestock and was shot in the process. Then it would be MY responsibility to pay for the damages, vet bills, apoligize to the owner and bring my dogs body home to bury it and tell myself what an idiot I was for allowing my dog to do this. If my dog was NOT shot,, then I would bring him home and make a decision as to wether he should be put down or not.

"Nothing is worth the life of a dog" Excuse me???? My 6 World title driving mare is!! And so is the 1st mini we ever bought who is now just a pet.

Okay, it early in the morning and I dont even post much so maybe I am just NOT understanding the post.

These dogs are NOT family members!! Who would send their FAMILY MEMBERS out to run loose and trespass and kill and cripple,, well on second thought I guess there ARE some,,, and thats why we have to lock our doors at night and buy security systems.

Gawd if we could go out and shoot all the people who let their dogs run loose,,,,,,, never mind,,,

I am done.

 

[rabbitsfizz]

ANY child is worth the life of a dog.

I would kill with my bare hands any dog that attacked a child of mine.

To put the life of an animal above that of a human...well, words fail me!!

That aside, I do hate the idea of hurting them- they have no idea they are hurting the horses, it is their instincts, kill by all means, hurt, obviously, as little as possible.

My ideal would be to live capture and make the owners hold them whilst they are euthanised!!

 

[ChrystalPaths]

I love dogs..I have 3. They are my fur kids. BUT if any one of them EVER chased after my horses, another animal, a child in malice or aggression..I would shoot it in a heartbeat. I have seen what dogs can do in a pack. I live way out in the woods. Dog packs here chase deer. Do we shoot them? Absolutely. Any dog that will chase deer will chase livestock. Horses are too vulnerable, we kep them fenced, their flight instincts are caged. It is then our obligation to keep them safe at "all" costs. Shoot shovel and SHHHHHH. I have shot dogs, I've cried each time, but I'll do it again. The sponge thing does bother me as I hate to see things suffer, thus my choice of a bullet.

 

[Sonya]

I love dogs too....more than horses. My dogs are my family members so I would never let them run loose. As someone else said, the owners obviousily do not look at the dogs as family members or they wouldn't be running loose. I must say I dont' like the sponge idea...kinda similiar to antifreeze, a very painful, long death. At least with shooting them, it is a quick and often painless death if it's done correctly. Could I shoot a dog???....I've been lucky I never had too, but if one was trying to attack my minis, yes I would.

When dogs run in packs, their natural instincts take over and there is not a whole lot you can do about it...is it the dogs fault?...no...it's the owners, but of course we can't shoot the owners.

 

[FairytailGlennMinis]

I don't like the sponge thing or antifreeze, but if I could not shoot or catch the attacking dogs, then I would do it. I would be physicaly sick over it and would cry my heart out, but I will do ANYthing I have to in order to keep my horses safe. I love dogs dearly, but will do whatever it take to stop ANY creature going after my horses. It isn't the dogs fault, it is the owners. To the girl that says she would go after people for killing her dog in their own animals defense--then you had best keep your beloved dog home!!!!

-Amy

 

[Shari]

This entire post makes me sick.

If these are truley someone's dogs and not wild dogs why in the world would you be trying to kill them. If someone even dared tried to kill my dog it would be shoot, shovel and SHHH for the person....no questions asked..... :new_2gunsfiring_v1:

Nothing is worth the life of a dog. Nothing...Dogs are like family members and if someone out there treated their dog so badly that the dogs are running around the country side, then that person should be shot as wel..

No dog has the right to murder, kill and maime. They DO NOT HAVE more rights to life, than any other animal or person on this planet.

YOU NEED to see someones beloved, Elder, child or other animal including mini's torn to shreds because of someone elses dog.

My horses are every bit as important as my son and Husband. Maggie is my heart. I would protect her and all my other FAMILY with everything possible.

I have seen attacks done to elders, sheep, horses....etc...etc... and I hope to never see the like again.

To see an animal or human suffer due to a dog attack is unspeakable.

Dogs are Predators and they bloomin know what they are doing. If any, and I mean any dog is on my place harassing or worse, the animals of MY Family and under my protection I will kill them, pure and simple.

I have saved an Elder lady when she was getting attacked, have saved my sheep. Was too late for my chickens. I can go on and on of what I have seen.

Here are a couple of the more mellow web sites to look at.

http://www.petplanet.co.uk/petplanet/chari...a_livestock.htm

Look at the bottom of this one.

http://www.shabdenparkfarm.com/farming/sheep.htm

You need to grow up and I hope you are smart enough not to have your dogs run loose.

Owners love their dogs,, keep them at home period.

 

[HGFarm]

I agree with the SSS method- been there, done that. I do NOT agree with poison or other things that create a slow and painful death.

I agree that law enforcement should be called and the humane society. If you have a video camera USE IT. I was told here that that is just more evidence that is undeniable on showing what the dogs are doing - like IN your barn.

I have two dogs and am an avid dog lover. Have had dogs all my life. I am also a RESPONSIBLE dog owner and have NEVER allowed mine to run loose or wreak havoc on someone else's property for any reason. If they leave my place, they are on a leash. Making threats at a person for not controlling their own dogs is just silly. If their dogs were at home where they belonged, these bad things would not happen.

Yes, after the 'chicken' episode, I can tell you that these dogs are killing for FUN. And the owners DONT CARE. If you have EVER seen a dog attack, you will never forget it. And a pack of dogs can pull down a donkey or llama or YOU!!

 

[NVsOkapi]

"I will kill these dogs anyway I can, even if I have to corner one and beat it with a baseball bat! And I will not feel guilty and I will sleep quite well."

that is horible. I would sooner beat a human to death than a dog that dosn't even know it is doing something wrong.

I love dogs..I have 3. They are my fur kids. BUT if any one of them EVER chased after my horses, another animal, a child in malice or aggression..I would shoot it in a heartbeat.

then you do not love your dogs..

I have seen and heard of many horible attacks that dogs did and it is not the fact that these, obvoulsy wild dogs are doing this that I am writting what I am. I think you have the right to get them off your property.

I am simply saying that the word "dog" and "SSS" in the same sentence makes me sick. I know you have to get rid of them, but next time, maybe think about putting it in a way that will not so easily offend others.

you want to know the truth. We had a horse that USED to attack dogs. It went after my dog one day.. Let just say it CAN'T do that anymore. SSS right? ddin't bother me in the least. I hated that stupid horse.

 

[Jetiki]

I have heard that Large Cat, Tiger, lion etc poop will keep them at bay and all other preditors.

I had a TB that took care of my dog problem, when I had one.

But I feel for you in this situation. Frozen Paintballs, tend to work too. Non Lethal yet marks the dog. Ususally they don't return, if they do, live ammo is the next step. I've shot dogs etc with paintballs, I only have had one return. It got frozen ones, and it didn't return. I keep one on my washing machine by the back door loaded and ready in case of intruder dogs. So far since we've moved I haven't had to use it.

Karen

 

[Sonya]

Dogs do not have to be "wild strays" to run in packs and do damage. Yes, they can be a pet and the majority of dogs, well behaved pets even...if they get in a pack with other dogs (say a neighbors)...they will act like wild dogs and will rampage what they can....it is instinct, then they will come home and even cuddle up with their owners...it IS instinct.

If people would just be responsible with their dogs, we'd never have this kind of situation...

The frozen paintball thing sounds great...can you try that?

 

[NVsOkapi]

Dogs do not have to be "wild strays" to run in packs and do damage. Yes, they can be a pet and the majority of dogs, well behaved pets even...if they get in a pack with other dogs (say a neighbors)...they will act like wild dogs and will rampage what they can....it is instinct, then they will come home and even cuddle up with their owners...it IS instinct.

If people would just be responsible with their dogs, we'd never have this kind of situation...

The frozen paintball thing sounds great...can you try that?

Yeah, I know that. I know so much about dogs it would make your head spin.

I am totally blaming the owner of these dogs. No doubt about it. I just don't like all the horific ways people are saying to kill them.

the painball thing worked at our farm. Our neighbors dogs do not come over anymore and the live like 10 steps from our front door. please try that before breaking out your baseball bat. .....

 

[Beccy]

I agree with the SSS method- been there, done that. I do NOT agree with poison or other things that create a slow and painful death.

My feelings exactly. I would not hesitate to shoot a dog that was attacking my animals either, but they truly are doing what comes naturally when irresponsible owners either throw them away to survive on their own or let them run loose to become part of a feral pack.

For a human who fully understands what they are doing, to use a method which will cause any animal to die a slow and agonising death is something I will never accept as a solution.

 

[Shari]

Paint balls don't work 99.9% of the time.

Dog wants to kill it will be back but it will be smart enough to do it when you are not around.

Is better and more safe to SSS and have done with it.

As for horses attacking dogs.

Did the horse pack up with other horses,, jump or dig under the fence to attack an dog on someone elses property down the road?

Find that is highly unlikely to happen.

Or was it on your property with one of your dogs. Maybe your dog harassed it to a point in wanted to defend itself.

I really feel sorry for you. :no:

I hope you are never on the recieving end of a dog attack. If you ever are...you will change your mind on how you view things.

 

[ChrystalPaths]

"I will kill these dogs anyway I can, even if I have to corner one and beat it with a baseball bat! And I will not feel guilty and I will sleep quite well."

that is horible. I would sooner beat a human to death than a dog that dosn't even know it is doing something wrong.

I love dogs..I have 3. They are my fur kids. BUT if any one of them EVER chased after my horses, another animal, a child in malice or aggression..I would shoot it in a heartbeat.

then you do not love your dogs..

I have seen and heard of many horible attacks that dogs did and it is not the fact that these, obvoulsy wild dogs are doing this that I am writting what I am. I think you have the right to get them off your property.

I am simply saying that the word "dog" and "SSS" in the same sentence makes me sick. I know you have to get rid of them, but next time, maybe think about putting it in a way that will not so easily offend others.

you want to know the truth. We had a horse that USED to attack dogs. It went after my dog one day.. Let just say it CAN'T do that anymore. SSS right? ddin't bother me in the least. I hated that stupid horse.

Brianna, you're new here so you don't know many of us. Most of us own both dogs and horses. Do a search here...just type in dog attacks. Tony and others can tell you just how horrific it can be.

You're getting too personal for me....you don't know me and many here do. I love my dogs, don't doubt it, but I would not tolerate any dog mine or another's to chase and/or attack a horse, a cat, a child, anyone or anything. Plain and simple. I am also horrified you would SSS a horse for going after a dog. The horse should have been sold or given away. I am rarely if ever critical or controversial but hon, I hope you don't have horses now. God forbid they displease you. JMHO...take it or leave it. Nuf said, this person has the right to defend what is theirs "period".

 

[Warpony]

You're getting too personal for me....you don't know me and many here do. I love my dogs, don't doubt it, but I would not tolerate any dog mine or another's to chase and/or attack a horse, a cat, a child, anyone or anything. Plain and simple.

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I love my dogs as much as is possible, but if one turned vicious and tried to hurt someone or something unprovoked (defending themselves would be another matter) I would have to make a tough choice. I find it absolutely insulting that someone would say i do not love my dogs or dogs in general simply because I would protect my other animals and my family from dangerous dogs by using deadly force if all else failed. The implication is that the dogs life is more valuable then the lives of the beings they attack, maim and kill. What are we supposed to do, let them fight it out and see who wins?

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I'm not targeting just dangerous dogs either. The same applies to any animal that attacks unprovoked and is a danger to humans and other animals. Striking out in self defense is one thing, viciously attacking another living being is a whole other ball game. How are we supposed to protect our animals and our families? Just stand by and let it happen???

 

[Minihorses101]

Once a dog viciously attacks someone/thing it is no longer considered a pet it is a dangerous WILD ANIMAL..........so when you are shooting a dog for protection of yourself, your animals or someone else you are not killing a dog you are killing a WILD ANIMAL.....just remember that!

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[HGFarm]

Brianna, every dog attack I have ever seen was done by people's PETS, not feral or stray dogs!!

I have seen horses go after dogs over the years sometimes - it is a defense mechanism to hopefully keep away a coyote, wolf, dog or something they know would be a danger to them!! Also, perhaps the horse had been bothered in the past by a dog and hated them for a reason?

Do more study on animals nature, and what their thought processes are. Horses are not going to 'pack up' and go on a killing spree at the neighbors because they like it!