Top 12 Reasons People Voted Democrat in 2008

[Katiean]

OK! I have read most and scanned all of this post that started as a joke. Oh, and Jill you forgot one very important reason people vote Democrat;

MOMMY AND DADDY ARE REPUBLICANS AND IT IS MY WAY OF REBELLING AGAINST THEM.

I don't really care what party someone is. You want to poke fun at Republicans, Democrats, Libritrian, Tea Party or any of the other smaller less known parties? Poke away! It isn't like anyone is really hurt by a joke. However, you could put ANY Past Republican President in a little bo peep dress and everyone would laugh. But, you put Obama in a witch docter costume (all photo shopped) and Democrats get mad. WHY???It is a joke and ment to be funny. I really do not understand all of the anger in this thread.

Here is my bit of gas to throw on the fire.

 

[Jill]

Not enough people can laugh, especially at themselves.

 

[TangoMango]

 

[andi]

Ok, Explain why the O.p. was considered a joke and it was not offensive to say someones head is so firmly planted up their butt; it's unlikely that they'll ever have another point of view. But Maestro's reply, doing exactly as told, posting the replublican version, and it's suddenly not funny and made into a point by point debate. Why couldnt you just sit back and laugh at yourself as the Democrats are expected to do . . .

 

[Nathan Luszcz]

Wow Jill... I have to admire your commitment. Not much else, unfortunately... sorry.

 

[Jill]

Wow Jill... I have to admire your commitment. Not much else, unfortunately... sorry.

No need to be sorry. The source is considered.

However, what a shame you aren't able to contribute anything to a political discussion other than an attempt at a personal insult. Maybe you just don't feel yourself to be informed enough to talk about the issues?

Ok, Explain why the O.p. was considered a joke and it was not offensive to say someones head is so firmly planted up their butt; it's unlikely that they'll ever have another point of view. But Maestro's reply, doing exactly as told, posting the replublican version, and it's suddenly not funny and made into a point by point debate. Why couldnt you just sit back and laugh at yourself as the Democrats are expected to do . . .

AND, Andi-James... wow. I didn't know that being able to address each item of Matt Down's response was going to be considered a bad thing, and some of my responses were a bit funny

I did offer an actually a real response, but since that wasn't what you wished for, here's a note of less value -- maybe you just have a hard time seeing in light of the issue you mentioned involving the location of your head. Feel free to write that off, as I did when you called me a racist, bigot and hypocrite.

AT The risk of bringing this around to politics again::

Interestingly enough, the same ridiculous junk can be found mocking republicans.......... for your reading pleasure

Darn, I was hoping it might be at least a little funny! I'll try at least to crack a smirk in my replies.

1) Because Jesus said "Thou shall give tax cuts to the obscenely wealthy."

See 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 below.

2) If you believe the government should stay out of your life! Unless of course, it's at the doctors, at the church, in the bedroom, involves guns, or a woman's body.

Republicans advocate for more government control at the doctors' offices? In church? With Guns? ... pretty much just the oposite.

3) Because despite the only reference to God in any government documents from the Founding Era is the word "Creator" in the Declaration of Independence, which isn't actually a governing document, we are a Christian Nation founded on Christian principles!

We are in large a Christian nation, and our Nation doesn't benefit when faith is ridiculed.

4) Because even though gay marriage wouldn't affect my marriage, it's still wrong! (Look what Jesus said about it! Oh wait...).

I personally support equal marriage rights for all committed couples and hope the GOP will update some views in that department -- however, it is personally very far down on my list of concerns when we have things like National Security and the economy on which to focus.

5) Because women don't NEED rights, dangit!

Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham... just a small sample of some pretty high profile and powerful republican women.

6) Because we need to help those who were born able to help themselves!

Sorry I wasn't born needing a handout and have been paying my own way since I was 16. I'm just so ashamed.

7) Because rich people need tax breaks more than poor people need food!

Anyone getting a paycheck from someone on welfare?

8) Because we need to invade countries and outspend the rest of the world combined on defense instead of fixing our schools!

Get the unions out of schools and be rid of the dead weight teachers they shelter and watch that system stop bleeding students and money.

9) Because lower taxes magically increases jobs and increases revenue!*

So when the governement raises your boss' taxes, and you lose your job -- how does that make you better off? (oh, you probably have a union school job...)

10) Because lower spending magically increases jobs and increases revenue!*

Check the math -- lower spending means less revenue (tax dollars) spent and more left over / less of a deficit. Really. Get out your calculator and see if it's not true!

11) Regulations are for European hippies! God will save the environment! Jesus Jesus Jesus, God, the Bible, guns, Amen.

The USA shouldn't emulate a European welfare state. Notice what's been going on over there?

12) Because science is a global conspiracy. We don't need to ejumacate our kids about no evolution or no global climate change! God will save the environment! Jesus Jesus Jesus, God, the Bible, guns, Amen.

Did you hear about the faked reports and dishonest science / descredited scientists behind the Global Warming and Green Movement. Oh, snap... They didn't cover that on NPR and MSNBC.

*Giving more guns to everyone would also have the same effect.

So, is this the part where I get to show off my concealed weapons permit?!?!

See, don't you get it now? We all have to vote Republican in 2012 to save 'Merica!

God Bless The USA.

 

[tagalong]

However, what a shame you aren't able to contribute anything to a political discussion other than an attempt at a personal insult. Maybe you just don't feel yourself to be informed enough to talk about the issues?

Umm.... that wasn't much of a "personal insult" as these threads go - not at all. Not even worth a second glance.

Even when one is VERY informed about the issues and discusses them calmly, one often gets a personal insult directed their way... ^ that is a whole lot of pot-kettle-blacking going on there ^ ....

 

[andi]

Jill my opinion is ridiculously clear. I DON'T think it is a bad thing that people respond seriously to attacks disguised as jokes that insult them. I asked why was it a problem that the democrats did when it is ok for you to?

And Jill, I see no were on this thread that mentions anything about racism or would even have anything to do with someones views on it. Please don't try to make this personal. I would hate too see some of these wonderful posts removed, so many have mentioned to me how much they enjoy coming on the forum and learning about all our views.

 

[Jill]

Oh, please, andi-James. If it wasn't this thread, look at the Debt Ceiling one. I'm not mistaken about what you so recently called me and please, do contribute some more of your political perspective and wit here when you find the time.

Whether or not you personally like this thread or found the OP funny doesn't matter to me. Lots of people did and I don't know many other threads that have received this many FaceBook likes, comments and LB traffic.. Plus, I'm real fond of the client that shared "The List" with me in the first place. So, *shrug*.

And, Tag, I hope the irony and hypocrisy doesn't make you die of either laughter or boredom. I was born with an instict to stick up for myself when I should and to fight fire with fire.

 

[andi]

At the risk of getting into any political convo.

This entire thread is a wonderful example of why getting the most views, the most likes, creating traffic, or the highest ratings shouldn't be the end all justification of something we should all be ashamed of, not always rewarded like some think would solve all our problems.

We use to all watch public hangings cheering and enjoying it, watch prisoners be torn apart by lions in the arena, does the fact that the majority enjoyed watching make them right?

And Jill weather or not I found this funny or should have, DID matter to you, until it was made clear you were being hypocritical, do as I say not as I do . . . It's fine to change your mind and see the other persons side, instead of just running away from your opinion and acting like it was never yours.

 

[Jill]

andi-James, you really should stop assigning words, assumed actions, opinions and feelings to me. Trust me, I'm more in touch with me than you are. I have no doubt that's how we both like it

 

[andi]

Before I made exact quotes, I was deemed weird and odd by you and would not respond to these quotes.

What thoughts or words am I assigning you that are not yours?

You said weather or not I like this thread or find it funny you don't care cause it has good ratings.

I KNOW you didn't actually use the word ratings, is it these type of differences in how I repeat what you say that have you so bothered?

 

[Nathan Luszcz]

Okay Jill, perhaps this quote would make it slightly less of an insult, and slightly less deserving of a snide, insulting response... "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." (Voltaire) He also said Common sense is not so common. Also fitting.

Just because I don't want to get into a one-upsmanship, name calling, refusing to consider other people's points of view, argument doesn't mean I don't have an opinion

 

[Katiean]

At the risk of getting into any political convo.

We use to all watch public hangings cheering and enjoying it, watch prisoners be torn apart by lions in the arena, does the fact that the majority enjoyed watching make them right?

I do not know about you, but, I never cheered at any public hanging. Nor have I ever watched someone be torn apart by a lion. Though it is most likely another form of late term abortion. I do not even like the show "WIPE OUT" because I know people have to be getting hurt for a chance at the all mighty dollar. If the list of reasons to vote Republican had not been repetitive and not just an attack on Christians, maybe it would have been funny too. I just do not understand why people need to get their panties in a bunch because they didn't take the time to actually make a joke out of being republican. It is just like "BLOND" jokes. I am blond and when someone starts telling Blond Jokes I kick in with a few of my own. What is the big deal? If you want I will work on a Republican list so no one feels singled out.

 

[andi]

I agree with you katieann, I was using the word we refering to us as a people, humans throughout time. Saying that because something gets good ratings or because people enjoy watching it as a form of justifying the act is never appropriate, in all actuality it is usually quite the opposite. Just look at popular television recently, what would have been and most likely should have been a guilty pleasure has broken into the mainstream, Jersey Shore, All the housewives shows, jerry springer. It's fine to be entertained by these shows, as long as you don't confuse them with reality and start rationalizing the behavior exhibited in them just because they are well watched. This list/joke, is the same thing. What scares me is these "jokes" are not jokes to most people including those who post them. On other topics people have revealed that they actually believe these statements and ones just as insulting, but when you call them out on them, they are just a joke again.

 

[CharlesFamily]

I do not know about you, but, I never cheered at any public hanging. Nor have I ever watched someone be torn apart by a lion. Though it is most likely another form of late term abortion. I do not even like the show "WIPE OUT" because I know people have to be getting hurt for a chance at the all mighty dollar. If the list of reasons to vote Republican had not been repetitive and not just an attack on Christians, maybe it would have been funny too. I just do not understand why people need to get their panties in a bunch because they didn't take the time to actually make a joke out of being republican. It is just like "BLOND" jokes. I am blond and when someone starts telling Blond Jokes I kick in with a few of my own. What is the big deal? If you want I will work on a Republican list so no one feels singled out.

For the record, I was never upset by the OP (although I thought it was stupid) and I wasn't upset by the Republican list (it was stupid, too). And I guess both of those lists would have applied to me because I DID vote Democrat in 2008 AND I am a registered Republican!

What I took offense to was the rebuttal that Jill made that attacked public school teachers and unions. Stupid e-mail jokes don't bother me - unsubstantiated opinions repeated as facts do!

Barbara

 

[Jill]

Before I made exact quotes, I was deemed weird and odd by you and would not respond to these quotes.

What thoughts or words am I assigning you that are not yours?

You said weather or not I like this thread or find it funny you don't care cause it has good ratings.

I KNOW you didn't actually use the word ratings, is it these type of differences in how I repeat what you say that have you so bothered?

You assigned racist and bigot very recently, andi-James, tried to re-word and re-define my own opinions and motivations throughout this (much more recent than this current) thread... and of course we both know the charming things you said to me in some previously deleted posts. I'm sure you remember this that stands: http://www.miniature...howtopic=125005

Did you want to do your own list of twelve, since you didn't like mine? Or just leave Matt Down's? I guess I don't know what you're aiming for here other than to make it clear that you do not think the list I posted is funny.

I do not know about you, but, I never cheered at any public hanging. Nor have I ever watched someone be torn apart by a lion. Though it is most likely another form of late term abortion. I do not even like the show "WIPE OUT" because I know people have to be getting hurt for a chance at the all mighty dollar. If the list of reasons to vote Republican had not been repetitive and not just an attack on Christians, maybe it would have been funny too. I just do not understand why people need to get their panties in a bunch because they didn't take the time to actually make a joke out of being republican. It is just like "BLOND" jokes. I am blond and when someone starts telling Blond Jokes I kick in with a few of my own. What is the big deal? If you want I will work on a Republican list so no one feels singled out.

Here-here

 

[Jill]

For the record, I was never upset by the OP (although I thought it was stupid) and I wasn't upset by the Republican list (it was stupid, too). And I guess both of those lists would have applied to me because I DID vote Democrat in 2008 AND I am a registered Republican!

What I took offense to was the rebuttal that Jill made that attacked public school teachers and unions. Stupid e-mail jokes don't bother me - unsubstantiated opinions repeated as facts do!

Barbara

Thanks and I understand you didn't like my opinion of what teachers' unions do / don't do. I still believe what I've said about public employee unions, however, I would imagine you yourself are a good and dedicated teacher.

 

[Jill]

And, since this is really so far off topic, I'd like to at least share again The List:

When your friends cannot explain why they voted for Democrats, give them this list. They can then pick their reasons from this "TOP 12"...

1. I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

2. I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

3. I voted Democrat because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

4. I voted Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

5. I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

6. I voted Democrat because I'm not concerned about millions of babies being aborted so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

7. I voted Democrat because I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education, and Social Security benefits.

8. I voted Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as the Democrats see fit.

9. I voted Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.

10. I voted Democrat because I think that it's better to pay billions to people who hate us for their oil, but not drill our own because it might upset some endangered beetle or gopher.

11. I voted Democrat because while we live in the greatest, most wonderful country in the world, I was promised "HOPE AND CHANGE".

12. I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my butt; it's unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

 

[cretahillsgal]

Love this! This is the best analogy I have heard in a while about how the school system now "rewards" and "punishes" the teachers and schools. Im not a teacher, but alot of my family is. Gonna have to share this with them.

Actually, if you understood what I was referring to you, you would understand I was exactly addressing what those who think they know best feel the "Free Market" in education should look like. Good results are rewarded (merit pay), bad results are not (teachers are fired). The problem is, my results do not merely hinge on me doing my very best, they also hinge on me and teachers like me, convincing 25, 36 or over 100 children that learning is worthwhile, they need to work hard and they need to do their very best. I can work my hardest, try everything I know and then some, but at the end of the day, I cannot make them want to learn, want to succeed.

I like to compare it to if you had a doctor who had 25 patients who were overweight and suffering from a variety of problems such as high blood pressure, heart problems, weight-induced diabetes. You take the doctor aside and say, "Okay, your pay is going to be based on the success you have in getting these 25 patients to lose weight and get their health conditions under control." The doctor thinks about it and has all 25 patients come into his office each day. He weighs them every day to evaluate where they are at and where they need to go. He gives them charts and printouts on why they need to lose weight and all the benefits they will receive. He puts them each on an individual diet plan and feeds them a properly balanced meal for breakfast and lunch. He even calls in other specialists in exercise to come each day and work with them while they are there and tell them what they need to do at home to lose the weight.

Then, at the end of the day, his patients go home. There are a few of them who are dedicated to this program and dedicated to their success. They follow the doctor's instructions, they eat right, they exercise. They have family who support them and make sure they have what they need to succeed. Some of them go home and try to follow what the doctor says, but they have family who decide they are going to order pizza for dinner, or everyone should watch a movie on TV together instead of going out for a walk. Those patients try and follow the doctors orders, but without the other support, they eventually falter. Some of those patients have the drive to succeed on their own, but it is hard. And then there are those who are only in the program because their insurance has required it. They refuse to listen to what the doctor has to say or even try. They leave the office, head straight for McDonald's and order 4 Big Macs. They sit in front of the TV, computer or video game for the rest of the evening. They'll show up again tomorrow, because it is required, but they have absolutely no interest in doing the things that will help them.

NOW - let's hold the doctor responsible for the fact that only 18% of his patients successfully lost weight. What?? That's a failing number! Obviously he is a very poor physician who is not dedicated to his job! If only he had worked harder! Obviously, he should have gone to their homes each night to follow up. He should have made himself available to them at all hours of the day in order to motivate them to do what they needed to do! It is all his fault!

That is the problem with attaching pay to an arbitrary number when it is not YOUR performance being evaluated, but the performance of others - many of whom simply do not care.

I have to go to church now, but I'll tune back in later to see where this has gone!