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yankee_minis

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never mind

i guess i'm the only one that thinks this is really bad

i'm naive

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Okay, here is the original post. It is just so unreal and I am exhausted with marestare. When no one answered after about 30 looks I thought I was over-reacting to the situation because I'm so tired and emotional. (Those mares can be so cruel to their humans as they stand there, comfortable with being pregnant forever!)

To me, this is like something I'd see in a movie on the LifeTime channel. Not something in my real life at all.

I didn't mean to raise a rucous or to seem petulant. Sorry.

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Most likely this is the situation, but I can't prove it. I've just never been exposed to something like this so I don't know how to process my feelings about it.

A friend's child has had voluntary cosmetic surgery. In order to cover it up this child (age 20) has told parents that a tumor was found and removed. The child is 1500 miles away. The tumor was so big, supposedly, that reconstructive surgery had to occur immediately, during that same procedure.

That was my first hint that the truth was not being told. I mean, what doctor removes a possibly cancerous tumor and then performs a procedure to restore larger perfection (such as an implant) during the same surgery?? Plus I had heard earlier that the cosmetic surgery was desired.

The mother was a basket case. I was devastated at the thought. Offered her money for a plane ticket to fly to the side of her child. She said she would wait for the test results and if it was cancerous, she would move there, even if it meant leaving everything here forever and filing for bankruptcy.

If the mother found out the child was lying, I doubt she would tell me. We're not best buddies but we have been there for each other over the last 10 years and each feels as if we owe the other for their support during hard times.

Presented with a printout of an online conversation revealing the deception, the mother would probably not believe me. The child would provide an explanation that someone else had hacked into a user account and had fabricated the whole cosmetic surgery thing.

How do you talk to your children that now know this friend lied to the parents about something so frightening?

If you found proof, like in an online discussion, would you tell the mother?

I just can't imagine this kind of deception. It's pathological.
 
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umm, what was it? You removed it after only 1 hour?
 
well, I saw the original post.........And I don't know the whole situation but sounds like your stuck between a rock and a hard place. I know if it were me, and I thought my family member were sick (tumor) I WOULD want to know the truth.......even if it meant my family member was a liar. I would appreciate the fact my friend was able to tell me the truth, when others would/could not. But, you must do what you feel is right for you.....good luck, this is a hard one.

Alicia
 
C'mon Tracy. You're stronger than this. Leaving it up for an hour only? :eek: Sheesh, last nite was good TV and I was also sick after drinking some bad water so the throne was my forum for a while. Obviously I wasn't online and many also may not have been. I hate to see this type of thing. Not yelling but gee wiz give the group a chance!
 
I didn't see Tracy's original post, but I don't think she should be scolded for removing it "after only an hour". The number of hours is immaterial. It's the number of people who read it and didn't bother to respond that probably caused her to delete it. I've done the same thing myself. Really frustrating to feel your concerns/issues are of zero concern/interest to other people.

Whatever it was Tracy I hope it works out for you.
 
I do think the time a post is on is VERY important. Sometimes I read something and I have to think about it for a bit in order to offer what I think it the best for the situation. I wish the OP would have left it on a bit longer so that those who don't make snap decisions on posts could have time to consider it for a while.
 
I am not scolding just asking her to repost and give us time to think and respond. I consider Tracy a lovely lady and would never say anything to hurt her. I think she knows this, knowing me and having met me.
 
I have to agree with Shirley on the "time" issue. I read this thread last night, but it was right before I HAD to get the kids to bed and by the time I was done, I was off doing something else and decided I would reply this morning.

The entire dilemma took me aback so much that I just don't know WHAT to say! I'm in shock that any child would do that to a parent to hide something like that! Makes me wonder about that person's self-esteem level for starters, for needing to have it done and then lying about it. Also makes me wonder about the parent/child relationship.

I immediately thought of my children (I have three girls, 13, 11, and 5). I would hope I raise them to be happy with their bodies, yet know that if they should choose to alter them, I will not hold it against them. I also hope that I teach them to be honest and share important decisions like that with me and not hide it from me because they might be concerned about my reaction.

I couldn't even begin to imagine what I would do if I was in your shoes. It's such a tough place. Most likely, being a Libra, I'd probably not say anything to either of them that I knew. I'd justify it by saying it's not my life, not my family, but then again, there is the thought of that poor woman thinking her child has had/may have cancer! How awful to go through that (having had four family members with cancer, I KNOW what it's like). From that point of view, I am totally disgusted that anyone would PRETEND to have a tumor. :no: It's an insult to those of us who have loved ones have had REAL tumors (such as my FIL, who just underwent surgery on his face on Monday to remove a huge tumor that has left his face paralyzed on one side now).

Hugs to you and your tough decision. I feel for that poor mother and for you for being burdened with this.
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I read it, and it was such a complex problem I didn't feel at all competent to offer opinon or advice.
 
I do think the time a post is on is VERY important. Sometimes I read something and I have to think about it for a bit in order to offer what I think it the best for the situation. I wish the OP would have left it on a bit longer so that those who don't make snap decisions on posts could have time to consider it for a while.


ditto!
 
Well I would confront the girl that had the surgery and tell her that you know what she did and she should tell her mom berfore she finds out from someone else. Maybe that will scare her into telling the truth. I would not be the one to tell her (the mom). That is what I would do, and shame on the girl for doing that to her mom, when she has kids of her own one day she will realize what she did and how horrible it is!! :no:

I feel for you. You are not in a good position!!
 
I'd also be one to put pressure on the kid to fess. Why would the child not want to talk about this? Are we talking Lipo or?? It's heck on a parent to go through that... and I would just push that over and over. I wouldn't come between them though.... JMO
 
Tracy...

After A LOT of thought, and I mean I have thought about this all day and tried to process it, I think I would go ahead and give the copy of the conversation to the Mom. I wouldn't voice my judgement one way or the other, but I would let her see it for herself. At the same time, I would do as the others have said and tell the girl what your plans are, to show the mother the conversation in which she outwardly tells that she was dishonest.

You can lead a horse to water, Dear, but you can't make it drink. Being a good friend in this situation means at least trying to ease the Mom's mind about her daughter having cancer. Like I said, you do NOT have to voice your two cents worth, just tell her that you happened upon this and thought she should see it--nothing more, nothing less. I would tell her how sorry you feel about the situation but leave any and all forms of judgement out of it! That usually is what tends to cause discord, so avoid it if you can.

I hope this helps. The girl really has some issues that no amount of plastic surgery is going to help her with.

HUGS

Jodi
 
Marestare or not I don't think you are overreacting a bit. I think you have great concern for your friend's feelings and I know I'd want to know if my daughter did something like that and would be gratful to learn it wasn't cancer after all.

I agree with Jodi wholeheartedly. Let her know, without judgment, of the deception and she will take it how she takes it. Things like this done with the right heart are never wrong.
 
Well I would confront the girl that had the surgery and tell her that you know what she did and she should tell her mom berfore she finds out from someone else. Maybe that will scare her into telling the truth. I would not be the one to tell her (the mom). That is what I would do, and shame on the girl for doing that to her mom, when she has kids of her own one day she will realize what she did and how horrible it is!! no.gifI feel for you. You are not in a good position!!
I would confront the daughter also, as mentioned above, but I would also tell her if she doesn't tell her Mom I would. It is a cruel thing to do to anyone lying like that (I can not stand liars) but your MOM :new_shocked: Lies always come out, do people not ever realize that? And it makes the situation a hundred times worse than if the truth were told in the first place. :no:

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YIKES!

Cannot imagine saying such a thing to cover up a choice I had made.

Must say! My Mum would be mad at me at any age for having a **** job but if I am an adult it would be my business. so long as I paid for it!

I think this is a case of an immature girl making a bad decision and not realising the implications of the lie. Now it has snowballed out of control.

Perhaps you can share the info with the Mom to ease her worry and then it is up to her how she reacts.

I did many things to my M & D that drove them mad and worse but it is all water under the bridge now, they are my parents and love me unconditionally through thick and thin and I will do the same with my kids.

We can all make mistakes but you must fess up to them or you create HUGE issues.

Horrible spot to be stuck in for you!
 
Oh, my. It's sad that this child is going to such lengths to cover up what she has done. I don't know what to say, but it sounds like you have some pretty sound advice. I'm sorry that you have been brought into the middle of this one. That has got to be tough. {{HUGS}}

~Karen
 
gosh its a hard one, im sorry ive no advice, but just wanted to let you know i thought long and hard and still couldnt think of ANYTHING to say that would be of any use.....sorry......go with your gut
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