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Sadie.........she touched so many and helped open the door to discussing dwarfism outside the closet Gabriel.........His story still amazes me Two wee horses with the hearts of lions

OMG that is definately one for a "playdog" calendar That is one tuckered pup

I don't see hysteria. I see conversation and thought provoking theories. I am probably approaching from a completely different angle because I am truly interested in the entire mechanism of dwarfism. I am curious to see if there is a neccessary component of dwarfism to the breed. I am...

OK you are shopping for a new mare, gelding or stallion. Which faults can you live with? Which virtues will outweigh faults in a horse? What do you like and dislike? I am a head hunter a pretty head always catches my eye first followed by a nice neck and topline. My other preference is a...

I actually think I get what Rabbitfizz is saying. Many horses have short necks, or a long back, or bad legs, or an off bite....all of which are known to be dwarf characteristics, however these same characteristics can be simply poor conformation. I think thats where the 3 characteristic rule...

I find it interesting how heated this topic still becomes for some. I don't breed, I have no vested interest in any show horse, and have nothing to gain or lose. I am curious.......... What if there had never been any dwarves used and the smallest miniature was 30 inches? After all it is...

If the bite didn't go off until age 4, I would be looking at possibly retained teeth, or too large/too many teeth for jaw structure, if there are no hooks etc throwing the bite off. Is the bite undershot, overshot, or wavemouth? I've seen some pretty ugly bites in full sized horses so bite...

To tell the truth as I watched him grow up (haha) he often reminded me of a human with pituitary dwarfism. His proportions were not massively off. I spent 3 years watching him grow, studying many of the 200 human forms of dwarfism, consulted with people I respected. Was told he probably...

:bgrin :bgrin :bgrin yep........she is a doll .....I have my no legs, calf kneed, sickle hocked, weiner gelding with a giraffe neck :new_shocked: :new_shocked: who is also a love but definately NOT a good conformation example.

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OK so long as no feathers will be ruffled :bgrin Her head is too big in proportion to her neck.......take a ruler or pencil and measure from muzzle to top of poll, now take that to her neck, and even other areas of her body. Also her shoulder is very upright, little angle/layback. Her front...

I would say at this point no one knows. Miniature horses show several types of dwarfism. Humans have over 200 documented types of dwarfism. In cattle I believe they deal with 2-3 types of dwarfism. In rabbits I can sayfrom experience, 2 genes = peanut, 1 gene = 3-4 lbs, no gene = 6+...

Great analogy :bgrin I spent 10 years researching, learning and then finally bred, I produced 1 foal and guess what.....it was not what I planned at all. I have not bred since. I doubt I will ever breed again. I only have 2 mini's now. I cannot do it the way I want to so I cut my losses and...

I would think breeders would be able to guide you with that. Maybe post over on the donkey board for suggestions :

Stephanie I put my little horse out there for the forum to critique for a very good reason. We are only now beginning to see and acknowledge some very specific traits that MAY be linked to dwarfism. People on this board have been at the forefront of taking the dwarves out of the closet. I...

I will add a note here. I know someone that uses pyr's and a donkey with her sheep. A good guardian donkey typically will NOT like dogs of any sort. She cannot use both at the same time because the donkey will try to take out the dogs. When she has the sheep in the lambing area(she has a...

I agree Margo that we need to have these conversations AND we can all learn from them. I found that thread to be interesting and was also saddened to see it disappear. If we can refrain from pointing fingers and naming names it might work better. I feel no need to call out the bloodlines...

Actually, his bite was always dead on. And many people felt he was just small. There was always something about him that made me pause. His only blatant issue was that his hooves would grow at rapid speed and curl under. No he never foundered but 8 weeks after a trim he would look as if he...

This is great keep it coming I promise to give more info eventually. No fear of hurt feelings here :bgrin I put out there so we all can learn.

ok I will go ahead and toss these photos out there for you to comment on........good, bad, ugly all opinions welcome :bgrin I already know the pic's stink....LOL best I could put together at the moment : I am just curious to see HOW various people describe the head and WHAT they see. Anyone...